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There is only one true solution, and that is abolishing the explotation of the planiate and the workers for private profit. Capitalism will kill us all
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollution_of_Lake_Karachay
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea
I'm not saying the Soviets hated lakes, but it's weird that they fucked up two of them.
China is the only Major Industrialised nation who is activly shrinking their carbon foot print.
I am not going to make any claims that the USSR was perfect, however it was certanly infintly better than what the US was provinding. However the Irrogation plans where to feed individuals and there it is more likely than not that the USSR if it still existed today would have worked on fixing said issue.
As for Lake Karachay, Unfortunatly the organization who made the claim about the lake went bunk about 7 years ago, so I am having issues seeing who their funding sources are, The founder did create a follow up organization who by effect is based in DC and the founder seems to have deep conections to the United States government it does not suprise me that one of the biggest polutions of the Soviet Nuclear program is brought up, but nothing of the US nuclear program is mentioned, IE Bakini Atol.
I also feel inclined to mention that most of the net polution is happening due to the lack of capitalists to want to do anything but maximise short term profits, and scream when anyone does anything to slow that growth, and that the nation doeing the most to decrease emmissions is the PRC.
Who said anything about China? They're not Communist. They're just state capitalism. Why bring them up unless you think they relate to this conversation about pollution?
The lady doth protest too much.
The Peoples Republic of China is very much Communist, I do not even know what you are talking about with this state capitalist thing. They are a run by and for the working class. I brought them up because you brought up 2 sources about a communist nation that was illegaly desolved and so can no longer make amends for past wrongs, I feel it is only fair to talk about an Actualy Existing Socialist State, however if an argument icluding an AES state is too much protesting from me I feel that proves my point better than anything I could say.
You don't know what "state capitalism" is, but you're sure that it doesn't resemble China?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capitalism
China has a stock market. They are not Communist anymore. They're barely even Maoist. The official position of the CCP is that Mao was 30% wrong.
"The lady doth protest too much" is a line from Shakespeare.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_lady_doth_protest_too_much,_methinks
The fact that you don't know either of these things indicates that you don't actually understand the concepts you are attacking or defending. Read more.
I know what the term is suposed to mean, it is a term without a meaning, I am not an imbicile. Yes there are stock markets in the PRC but if you look at them they are run by and fpr the prolotarate, not as a corperation, anyone who has done a modicum of reseaech into the PRC know this
Also I am a fucking English speaker I knpw the fucking line, I was merly pointing out ot mase no sense in the context you where giving, where in I provide an AES example to cpunter 2 examples given to me of a socialist state who cannot?remedate the conditions they started
China is the only one reducing carbon? That's a pretty weird statement. This is a little put of date, but... https://cdn.climatechangenews.com/files/2017/03/238eb46742db30303bcd33fe9ce65f3d-1.png almost the opposite of what you're saying. Recently, China does seem to be reducing a bit, but it has shot up by such a huge amount that pointing to them as the best example is pretty weird.