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submitted 1 year ago by alyaza@beehaw.org to c/news@beehaw.org

please post any subsequent updates here unless they're huge happenings. i just woke up and half our news front page is updates which is nice but also A Lot and most of these don't have to be their own thread

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[-] runekn@beehaw.org 108 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well that was... weird.

I saw several alleged videos of russian frontline units pledging their support for Prigozhin. Combine that with how little resistance wagner faced and Putin might have realized how weak his position is and given in to replacing MOD staff. Not a good look the same day he declared Prigozhin a traitor and promised punishment.

Trading the long-term stability for the short-term. Because now every aspiring russian warlord know that if you don't like something about the state, all you need is just a big enough private army to bully the kremlin, lol.

[-] techters@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

I don't know why anyone is taking any of this seriously. For all we know, this was done to lure Ukraine into following them into Russia to fall into a set trap, or theater or withdraw and resupply without looking weak. It is odd that it looks like Putin had weakness, but they can always say that's what it was later and the propaganda will work like it always does.

[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 16 points 1 year ago

It would be weird to shoot down friendly helicopters and launch cruise missiles at friendly formations just to make a big feint.

Ukraine just needs to take the land bridge to Crimea, I don't see they have any incentive to go inwards towards Russia.

[-] techters@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Do we know for certain that any of that happened though? Because I haven't seen any video of actual engagement between Wagner and Russia.

[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

Well, here's some footage with a shot down C&C plane. I mean it still could be not Wagner, but it would be an awful coincidence.

I mean we still don't know shit beyond the fact that Ukraine is holding strong and slowly reclaiming territory. The thing about this story is that it shows that the Russians are divided, and that's not a picture you want to show in a war, especially to your people. These events are costing the Russians dearly in one way or another.

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