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submitted 1 year ago by alyaza@beehaw.org to c/news@beehaw.org

please post any subsequent updates here unless they're huge happenings. i just woke up and half our news front page is updates which is nice but also A Lot and most of these don't have to be their own thread

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[-] runekn@beehaw.org 108 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well that was... weird.

I saw several alleged videos of russian frontline units pledging their support for Prigozhin. Combine that with how little resistance wagner faced and Putin might have realized how weak his position is and given in to replacing MOD staff. Not a good look the same day he declared Prigozhin a traitor and promised punishment.

Trading the long-term stability for the short-term. Because now every aspiring russian warlord know that if you don't like something about the state, all you need is just a big enough private army to bully the kremlin, lol.

[-] techters@beehaw.org 14 points 1 year ago

I don't know why anyone is taking any of this seriously. For all we know, this was done to lure Ukraine into following them into Russia to fall into a set trap, or theater or withdraw and resupply without looking weak. It is odd that it looks like Putin had weakness, but they can always say that's what it was later and the propaganda will work like it always does.

[-] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Do you really think Ukraine has an interest on following them into Russia? If I was them I would just want to take back Ukraine and secure the borders.

[-] techters@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

They currently have an operation attacking into Russia's boarder...

[-] abhibeckert@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Only if you accept Russia's description of where the border is. The border as defined by every other country in the entire world says Ukraine is still in their own territory.

There have been some Ukrainian sympathisers setting off bombs/shooting down aircraft/etc inside Russian territory - but those aren't Ukranian soldiers and they're pretty generally just a few random/nonconsequential attacks and don't show any signs of being linked to any "Operation". The front line of the battlefield is nowhere near the border.

[-] techters@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

No, it's documented and reported by Ukraine and US as they counterattacked on Russian soil and it was an issue because of the US supplying weapons to them: https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2023/05/29/an-increasing-number-of-ukrainian-attacks-on-russian-soil-are-upsetting-the-united-states-and-kyiv-s-allies_6028312_4.html

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