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I'm not defending him. But he was acquitted, so he's not famous for murder. A bunch of people believe that he genuinely acted in legitimate self defense, and thus he is a symbol of the correct use of arms for self defense and a victim of a system that tried to jail him for doing so.
The Judge deemed a rifle above 15 inches was not a "Deadly Weapon" due to wild interpretation of the grammar of the state laws. He went to a protest with a military style rifle and shot people in two separate confrontations, killing 2 people. He is a murderer, it's just been ruled that murdering political opponents was allowed in this case.
Are you mostly mad because he killed a pedo?
Quick hypothetical for you:
John shoots and kills Frank. They had never met each other and John did not know that Frank has a history of abusing children. John claims it was self-defense.
Was the shooting justified?
Yes, because frank in this case was chasing John and tried to get his gun. Also frank was already caught on video threatening people lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N70fok1R2Kg
I think you missed the whole point of my comment.
There is not enough information. If you add the fact that Frank was chasing after John and trying to grab his gun, then yes it would be justified.
The whole point is that people here seem to be defaulting to the racist pedo that was chasing after the minor. I dont get it out of ideologically you are forced to defend the guy on your team even if they spent years in prison for one of the worst crimes.
Yeah, that's the point.
But that is a hypothetical and we know all of the details of the Rittenhouse case...
Also right.
The point I was getting at is that the question of whether or a shooting is justified depends entirely on the circumstances that led to the shooting. Not someone's past criminal behavior that the shooter was not aware of.
You may certainly disagree with other peoples' reasons for viewing the shooting as unjustified. But it seems that you are either unwilling or unable to see that both people involved in an altercation can be bad. One shouldn't be considered a hero just because he's less bad than the other.
The dead pedo deserved what he got. Rittenhouse is a dumbass who was looking for a fight and luck was the only thing that saved him from killing an innocent bystander.
These can both be true at the same time, and saying that Rittenhouse's actions shouldn't be celebrated is not the same thing as defending pedophilia.
Rittenhouse was just a dumb kid, I heard him on a podcast and he just was just there to help, but if he was my kid he wouldnt have been there. But he was not "a dumbass who was looking for a fight". He was not a hero, he was just a person that had to defend themselves so that he survived. Sure he shouldnt have been there, but neither should all of those looters and rioters.
That's a pretty reasonable position to take. I don't agree with it, but I understand how you arrived there.
Do you still think that being a pedophile is the only reason someone would say Rittenhouse's shooting was unjustified?
With the pedo thing it just amazes me that they defend the pedo, but then will gloat when someone like Herman Cain dies of covid. It just makes me wonder why they defend him but them get mad at the minor who was just trying to get away.
With the pedo thing it just amazes me that they defend the pedo, but then will gloat when someone like Herman Cain dies of covid. It just makes me wonder why they defend him but them get mad at the minor who was just trying to get away.