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submitted 7 months ago by 0x815@feddit.de to c/europe@feddit.de

Less than 10 years ago, Germany, and especially Berlin, was held up as a beacon of openness and inclusivity in a western world rocked by Brexit and Donald Trump. Angela Merkel’s decision to take in thousands of refugees displaced by the war in Syria boosted her country’s reputation in progressive circles, with many international artists and academics choosing to make the German capital their new home.

Yet the conflict in the Middle East is showing Germany in a new light, highlighting fissures in society and the arts world that until now had been easier to ignore.

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[-] crispy_kilt@feddit.de 27 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Crime against jewish people is on the rise in Germany, as are neonazis. Hate crimes against jews were also rising before the Gaza war, by the way.

If Germany didn't try to protect jewish people it would mean they learnt nothing from the past.

The chancellor has said the safety and security of Israel is Germany's raison d'êtat.

Before I get downvoted to hell by Gaza sympathisers, let me add that Israel is currently committing massive war crimes against the Palestinian people and those responsible must be tried and punished in an international court of law.

All of these things can be true at the same time:

a) Israel is committing war crimes and crimes against humanity

b) Hamas has committed crimes against humanity

c) Israel has a right to existence and to security

d) Palestine has a right to existence and to security

I don't get how some people feel they have to pick only two out of these four.

[-] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 25 points 7 months ago

They're not protecting 'Jewish people'. They're protecting Israel. There's a massive difference.

[-] nichtsowichtig@feddit.de -3 points 7 months ago

there is not a massive difference. jewish and israeli identity are intertwined. Many jewish people sought refuge in israel because they had nowhere else to go. European jews after WW2 or arab jews in the late 40s/50s who were expelled out of muslim countries, for example. And again, defending israel's right to exist is not the same as defending the israeli government or the war crimes the idf commits.

[-] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 5 points 7 months ago

Not really. Israel is an ethnostate, they've declared it themselves. Genocide and oppression are guaranteed so long as it continues to be one.

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