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Thousands of authors demand payment from AI companies for use of copyrighted works::Thousands of published authors are requesting payment from tech companies for the use of their copyrighted works in training artificial intelligence tools, marking the latest intellectual property critique to target AI development.

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[-] cerevant@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

There is already a business model for compensating authors: it is called buying the book. If the AI trainers are pirating books, then yeah - sue them.

There are plagiarism and copyright laws to protect the output of these tools: if the output is infringing, then sue them. However, if the output of an AI would not be considered infringing for a human, then it isn’t infringement.

When you sell a book, you don’t get to control how that book is used. You can’t tell me that I can’t quote your book (within fair use restrictions). You can’t tell me that I can’t refer to your book in a blog post. You can’t dictate who may and may not read a book. You can’t tell me that I can’t give a book to a friend. Or an enemy. Or an anarchist.

Folks, this isn’t a new problem, and it doesn’t need new laws.

[-] cloudless@feddit.uk 15 points 1 year ago

I asked Bing Chat for the 10th paragraph of the first Harry Potter book, and it gave me this:

"He couldn’t know that at this very moment, people meeting in secret all over the country were holding up their glasses and saying in hushed voices: ‘To Harry Potter – the boy who lived!’"

It looks like technically I might be able to obtain the entire book (eventually) by asking Bing the right questions?

[-] cerevant@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then this is a copyright violation - it violates any standard for such, and the AI should be altered to account for that.

What I’m seeing is people complaining about content being fed into AI, and I can’t see why that should be a problem (assuming it was legally acquired or publicly available). Only the output can be problematic.

[-] GentlemanLoser@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

No, the AI should be shut down and the owner should first be paying the statutory damages for each use of registered works of copyright (assuming all parties in the USA)

If they have a company left after that, then they can fix the AI.

[-] cerevant@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Again, my point is that the output is what can violate the law, not the input. And we already have laws that govern fair use, rebroadcast, etc.

[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I think it's not just the output. I can buy an image on any stock Plattform, print it on a T-Shirt, wear it myself or gift it to somebody. But if I want to sell T-Shirts using that image I need a commercial licence - even if I alter the original image extensivly or combine it with other assets to create something new. It's not exactly the same thing but openAI and other companies certainly use copyrighted material to create and improve commercial products. So this doesn't seem the same kind of usage an avarage joe buys a book for.

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