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Should we post here or reddit? (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 6 months ago by gemew26@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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I thought r/piracy was dead but I see is very active, I don't know if mods changed or something though. Where do you guys think is best to ask questions?

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[-] StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 6 months ago

I’m inclined to say screw Reddit. Lemmy may be less private overall but at least we have more control over things in the Fedi.

[-] anzo@programming.dev 10 points 6 months ago

How is it "less" private? Because the API isn't a paywall, sure. But... I don't know what's your perspective, really.

[-] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 months ago

Probably along the lines of federated user activity, so things like upvotes/downvotes etc and subscriptions to a community being federated to the relevant server(s)

So even if you're lurking just voting on content, someone could setup a lemmy server, sub to a bunch of communities, and theoretically look at incoming activitypub updates from those communities for your activity I think

[-] anzo@programming.dev 4 points 6 months ago

Assuming that is really an issue (depends on who you are, what you're doing, and the motivation of the actor mounting such spying infrastructure), how is it any different on Reddit? First, being closed source and everything, we can't rule out that easier and large scale logging isn't already implemented. Secondly, such actor would probably just pay the API and scrape the same data if not with more details. It would also get extra metadata from brokers, etc.

Ultimately, if you want privacy, I agree that federation is undesired. That's why there are Lemmy instances that block all other instances by default. AFAIK those were from right extremists and pesos, at least judging by the name of their URLs.

[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

The difference here is that on Reddit, only 1 party has access to your info. On Lemmy, it's any party who has an instance that federates with yours.

[-] anzo@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago

Well, on Reddit any party can pay the API prices that are needed to scrape data. So, the paywall. I guess it's some measure... But if you are being tracked by such an actor, your threat model can't really include reddit... It's defeating the purpose. All this is discussion on air.

[-] TheGalacticVoid@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

Reddit doesn't provide nearly the same level of granular data that Lemmy does via the API or any publicly available channels. While we can't verify whether stuff like upvote data is sent or sold to data brokers, we do know that Lemmy, by design, gives it to literally anyone who wants it.