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submitted 7 months ago by toaster@slrpnk.net to c/inperson@slrpnk.net

So I decided to share these with my neighbours! 😊

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[-] JacobCoffinWrites@slrpnk.net 3 points 7 months ago

Wait does this work in the US? I can make one right now if so!

[-] activistPnk@slrpnk.net 5 points 7 months ago

It cannot work in the US; but it’s also useless under US rules. That is, it is already illegal nationwide for anyone other than USPS to feed your official US Mail postbox. Some people hate the fact that this gives USPS monopoly power because UPS and FedEx also cannot put anything in your mailbox. But the upside is US mailboxes don’t get junked up by a leafletter.

So in the US, the only legal way for mail to enter your postbox is at the hands of USPS, which IIUC means only mail that is addressed to your address because I don’t think USPS delivers unaddressed material unless it’s actually from USPS. That also means junk mailers must pay postage. If the local pizza shop stuffs flyers in your mailbox, it’s criminal and actionable.

The “no marketing” tags that people put on mailboxes outside the US (e.g. Europe) is to cover situations where anyone can junk up your mailbox. Then the signage means (in effect) “no mail that is unaddressed”.

Of course junk /can/ be addressed to you specifically (inside and outside the US), but you wouldn’t want the postal worker making guesses about whether it’s junk, would you? So I think that’s always delivered.

[-] JacobCoffinWrites@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 months ago

Good to know. I looked it up around when I asked and it looks like there's a couple websites in the US you can try to opt out on but one requires a SSN and a fee, so I'm skeptical.

[-] activistPnk@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Hmm.. that reminds me, there may be something w.r.t. direct marketing. Marketers have to get your address and pay postage to junk mail you in the US. That only deters the most reckless marketing efforts. For some ad companies it is worth the postage cost. So then they have to get your address, which means buying your address from a data broker. You can probably pay a fee to get removed from some databases that feed junk mailers.

Data protection is mostly non-existent in the US. So there are countless data brokers that are happy to sell you a removal service. Some data brokers will even remove your records at no cost. But the number of data brokers would require you to quit your job in order to have time to make all the removal requests and constantly monitor new data brokers. So there are services that remove your records from a bulk number of data brokers, for a fee. I think it’s normal that they want your SSN because that’s the primary key for everything. But yeah, it’s a double-edged sword because you have to trust the cleaning company with your SSN and you can’t really know if that SSN just ends up enriching the records of some of the more black market data brokers.

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