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[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 139 points 6 months ago

Orwell called this "doublethink" and identified it, correctly, as one of the most vital features of a certain type of political structure.

[-] DdCno1@beehaw.org 26 points 6 months ago

He was inspired by Stalinist practices, but as shown by this example and many others, far-left and far-right autocrats are very similar in this regard.

[-] exocrinous@startrek.website 16 points 6 months ago

Stalin wasn't far left. The man made being gay illegal. That's not the behaviour of a leftist.

[-] BlueBockser@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago

Sounds like a "no true Scotsman" argument tbh

[-] exocrinous@startrek.website 14 points 6 months ago

The man also concentrated ownership of the means of production in the hands of one person, administered by a hierarchy of national and regional subordinates who controlled the labour of the people and the distribution of resources. This is an economic model known most commonly as feudalism. Now given the term left wing originally referred to opponents of the monarchy in France, I don't see how there's any way to argue in good faith that a feudal dictator was left wing.

[-] DdCno1@beehaw.org 2 points 6 months ago

This is an economic model known most commonly as feudalism.

Hahaha, that's not how feudalism works at all. You are twisting yourself backwards through your legs to come up with some kind of nonsense that makes Stalin not far-left. It's hilarious.

[-] exocrinous@startrek.website 9 points 6 months ago

the dominant social system in medieval Europe, in which the nobility held lands from the Crown in exchange for military service, and vassals were in turn tenants of the nobles, while the peasants (villeins or serfs) were obliged to live on their lord's land and give him homage, labour, and a share of the produce, notionally in exchange for military protection.

That's the USSR.

[-] off_brand_@beehaw.org 6 points 6 months ago

Not the person you responded to, but: left economically is not left socially.

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