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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by YIj54yALOJxEsY20eU@lemm.ee to c/unpopularopinion@lemmy.world

Downvotes suck. I get it, they are made up internet points coming from strangers (or bots) that you know nothing about, and you shouldn't let that get you down. Still, putting in a few minutes of effort to share your opinion and engage with the community just to see a downvote is disheartening.

Based on the patterns of downvotes I see on a post, it seems like there is usually one or two people downvoting everything they wouldn't personally say themselves. Extrapolating from this, I presume there is a population of users that contribute more downvotes than anything.

Personally, I don't think the platform should allow any user to spend more time tearing things down than building other things up. Only allowing downvotes after so many upvotes would help stop trolls and could help generate more engagement via upvotes.

Edit:

The upvote/downvote count would be a global count including posts and comments, not a post specific count. This solution does not prevent downvoting, it merely adds friction to those who predominantly leave negative feedback by ensuring their positive feedback elsewhere. Sure, some would go on to upvote unsavory things, but others would attempt to further engage with their interests, and some would simply lurk.

If any good faith user approached the limitation, they would likely be better served by curating their feed.

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[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago

Since finding out that that the .ml instance has a discord that they coordinate attacks from, I definitely think something like this should be Implemented.

How would this help? They probably already upvote some comments.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

If each user has to upvote 2 comments for every down vote, they would be forced to actually up engagement elsewhere when attempting to brigade campaign users.

Down votes not counting unless paired with a reply could also significantly slow them down.

[-] YIj54yALOJxEsY20eU@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Aren't they already leaving comments and mass upvoting those when they are brigading? This solution does not necessarily help brigades nor any really determined people, it merely adds more friction to those who predominantly downvote at the cost of them engaging elsewhere.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

Very good point.

Clearly we need a multifaceted solution, though I'm not sure what the solution is. I do believe that the .ml instance is the cause Lemmy hasn't taken off the way we had hoped, and defederation should be discussed, but I think those same users will just rebound to a different instance and destroy the community there.

In general, I think slowing them down might be a good starting point before the more nuclear options are broached though.

Just upvote a few comments that align with your position.

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