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submitted 1 year ago by Styxie@feddit.nl to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world

This one really gets me: commuting by car is such an inefficient way of getting around that every major radio station feels obliged to constantly update their listeners about how gridlocked the roads are.

Not one mention is given to alternative transport options that might actually help reduce traffic. They just treat it like a weather forecast. Nothing can be done to prevent it. It's worth saying that radio is still really popular where I live, so it's a daily reminder for me of how deeply fucking carbrained my culture has become.

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[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Using state funded media to get that message across every half an hour during traffic reports seems a fairly obvious way of doing so.

I will heartily agree there in principle, but if the public transport is not a time savings over driving--as is very commonly the case--it would be self defeating.

[-] Styxie@feddit.nl -1 points 1 year ago

Why does public transport need to be exactly as quick as driving? I leave myself an extra few minutes to walk to the bus in the morning with no negative consequences compared to driving whatsoever. It's not the end of the world if getting from A to B takes a little longer. This is exactly the type of dogshit logic that makes it next to impossible to get anyone to do anything differently.

[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Lmao you proposed using public radio to remind people to use public transport alongside traffic reports. If the radio says "there's a 45 minute backup from O'Hare to downtown, but the CTA is running 1:15" it doesn't exactly make the case for public transit, and tacking on "but spending that extra 30 minutes on the train will help support a better system eventually" will change exactly zero minds.

Look, the topic of this post was how traffic reports are reinforcing that driving is the only viable way to get around. Traffic reports are at best a symptom, not a cause, more realistically they are a relic of the time before we all had smart phones. Railing against anything that reminds you of cars is not the path to systematic change.

[-] Styxie@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago

I'm not interested in changing people's minds. I'm in favour of literally telling people to stop driving because the fucking planet is on fire. If that adds 30 minutes to your commute, so be it.

Meanwhile I live in a city with good public transport, such that it only takes 15 minutes longer to get around, but 95% of people still drive. That absolutely justifies regularly reminding people that acceptable alternatives are available every time they listen to the radio.

Railing against anything that reminds you of cars is not the path to systematic change.

Yes it is. That's why this community exists: to discuss alternatives to car dependency.

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