Anyone interested in an XMR p2p trading Community? (monero.town)

submitted 5 months ago by CaptainCanaryLLC@monero.town to c/monero@monero.town

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Gauging interest in making a community (here on monero.town) where sellers would be able to post their seller profiles, including:

a min/max amount of xmr they have for sale
any payment methods, currencies, or coins they accept
communication methods they accept
links to accounts on other sites with feedback, and any verification they choose to include

No escrow (unless buyer/seller want to arrange it). Buyers could post reviews on the seller threads.

It would allow buyers and sellers to have a place to find each other, along with all the information they need to make successful trades with established sellers. Buyers and sellers could complete transactions any way they see fit.

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[-] tusker@monero.town 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

As someone already mentioned, try https://retroshare.cc

It is fully decentralized community software with forums, chat, BBS, and file sharing. It is too risky here as they might claim this site is conspiring to transmit money without communist permission.

[-] CaptainCanaryLLC@monero.town 2 points 5 months ago

I made a retroshare board/chat with a daily trade thread. If anyone is interested check it out and share:

retroshare://posted?name=XMR%20p2p%20sellers%20and%20buyers&id=fe3f6d34693bf689a6dd355f5e7c6142

[-] tusker@monero.town 1 points 5 months ago

Not sure how to even open this board link in RS, maybe you have to post your RS ID?

[-] hfondmanager@monero.town 1 points 5 months ago

In the buildup phase of a true p2p network its necessary that nodes keep running idle to enable the gossip protocol. To collect peers.

This might seem inconvenient, but relying forever on "seednodes" makes the p2p net centralized. It is necessary for resilience as full nodes are for Monero. Same goes for Haveno.

The difficult part is to stick to running your node before the network effect kicks in - by then you can freely connect and disconnect to the p2p network. This bootup phase is crucial to understand. The app needs storage on your machine to remember the peers it finds.

Look at the network graph in retroshare: are you well connected to other peers?

[-] tusker@monero.town 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes, I have it running. What I was saying is that I cannot find where to put that share link to find the board Captain has created. I think they need to share their retroshare ID so people can find them on the network.

Here is my retroshare ID, if anyone wants to connect and try this thing out.

ABBoJ5fsnoFayyBIJYYlRaXLAxQ3CbybJPUM1BTbdmcS+IjL8xLcXwEFZ2VrdXSQRAAAAAImlmh5Z3psemwyaHh6bnhmeGd6bDNzZ2hvdm51YjVwamY1NTVvcDcyZXZxYWdpaHN6a2h0bnoyYmFkLm9uaW9uBAMK/p4=

[-] hfondmanager@monero.town 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

He needs to share his certificate. ID is not enough. Standard is you become friends (see below) first. Then you'll see his chat lobbies, forums, etc.

Try this on a test account, Do not systematically sign or authenticate your friends' keys. Use DHT mode on clearnet to test.

Retroshare ID is not enough to connect. Share your certificate (PGP public key) with your friend and request the certificate from your Friend. This is normally done in person or any other secure trusted channel. Both need to ACK each others pub key.

Moreover both need to be online to find each other.

https://retroshare.readthedocs.io/en/latest/user-guide/first-steps/#first-friend

First... our beloved friends from the 3 letter agencies are the first to create groups. They fork Haveno. Post "help" videos. etc. etc. Pretend that we censor them when we call out their honeypot website ads in here.

Second... people don't understand that "creating a new group" is not enough. They need to share their public PGP key (or hashed version). SimpleX makes this easy in the form of a http:// link to onboard new users. Even this process is too difficult to understand for most noobs.

We'll keep it up.

ps. torrc is in ~./retroshare/tor/

[-] hfondmanager@monero.town 1 points 5 months ago

DHT is needed. The problem arises when people try the most para settings possible. Retro is private even with most relaxed settings.

Go to Settings->Server and change config to "Public: DHT and Discovery" (wont expose your IP)

Add me ("aaa"): ABBfKWSD8saPgtQ+nA2PeyZrAxS8KLRy7UmQBzWlsouNKMQGVuq0AwEDYWFhkwYBAAB/PDoEAzcmnA==

if pub key needed:

-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: OpenPGP:SDK v0.9

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I'll be online in 3hrs for, say 2 hrs. No need to sign my pup key.