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[-] arymandias@feddit.de 36 points 4 months ago

If it was possible I would put quite some money on that geo engineering (like stratospheric aerosol injection) will be seriously discussed on a UN level within ten years. Climate change seems only to speed up and co2 emissions are still rising. At one point there is simply no alternative.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 34 points 4 months ago

Greta Thunberg talks about it in her book - if the bathtub is overflowing in your house and water is spilling across the floor everywhere, step 1 for most people is to turn off the water. Yes sure it is fine to look for towels and buckets to try to contain the damage (and I don’t even disagree with you that it’ll be needed), but that also assumes that they’ll work and there will be political support to deploy them at scale, instead of mustering up the political support to turn the fucking taps down since at this point that’s clearly needed and is relatively speaking much much easier.

[-] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 4 months ago

Exactly. The problem is that too many of the world's leaders don't want to upset the capital holders by limiting greenhouse gases.

These people are literally the people that Alfred told Bruce Wayne about: some men just want to see the world burn.

But at least we created some great shareholder value.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 9 points 4 months ago

It’s honestly most akin to an AI model over optimizing for the trained outcome even when it turns out it was misaligned from the good outcome we wanted.

They certainly don’t want their grandchildren to inhabit a barely-livable hellscape instead of the paradise world they were born into, but they’ve been optimizing for money for so long that it’s baked in now, and it’s so so easy to just say, well it’s probably not a big deal, or I don’t think the science is really all that dire in its predictions, or oh well someone else will probably figure it out. And so, every year, we keep setting records for “production”.

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