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God, what a shitty article. The title quote is literally just from some random internet person.
Lindsey Graham supports Ukraine. If you look at anything else he's said on the subject, including the rest of the interview, his stance on it is abundantly clear. Newsweek, for example, covers the remarks while doing the most basic level of journalistic integrity by presenting the context rather than covering a bunch of random social media dunks from randos who don't know what they're talking about.
You're eating your own, libs.
"We celebrated the 80th anniversary of D-Day. It was a failure. It was the 'unnecessary war, ' described by Winston Churchill. We had a dozen chances to stop Hitler. It's not about NATO. It's not about American weapons in Ukraine. It's about a megalomaniac wanting to create the Russian Empire by force of arms."
He did say what was in the title quote.
If I was being really generous, I'd say this is a nuanced statement saying that Hitler could have been stopped in a hundred different ways before it ever got to that point. I'm not inclined to be generous to Lindsay Graham, however. Part of that is because people who were Graham's political ancestors in Germany--people like von Hindenburg, or Georg Neithardt, the judge in the Beer Hall Putsch trial--are the one's at the top of the list of people who could have stopped it much sooner.
Who was it who said "He's truly lost his mind," the quote that appears at the start of the title, which some might describe as, "the title quote?" Was it, perhaps, an Internet user identified in the article only as "SnarkyPanda," who some might describe as, "a random internet person?"
That's not "being really generous," it's the obvious interpretation and the only coherent one. How do you interpret it, exactly? That he thinks fighting Hitler was bad because he thinks Hitler was good? How on earth does that make any sense whatsoever with the overall point he was making?
It's clickbait soundbite outrage porn for people who either can't read or have no interest in reading. It's no different from what you'd find in a celebrity tabloid, just for a different audience.