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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

If the fediverse had to deal with the amount of traffic and content from YouTube in its current state, it would collapse immediately.

The Fediverse would be a very different place if it was hosting anything remotely close to YouTube tier traffic. FFS, how much of the Fediverse is even outside English speaking countries? None of our systems are getting bombarded with hundreds of gigabytes of Good Morning messages like Whatsapp is dealing with in India, for instance.

So much of the content on these big services is both trivial in terms of audience and enormous in terms of relative file size. My sister-in-law sent me a thirty minute compilation video from their latest summer vacation, which she hosted to YouTube. That video is going to get maybe five views, unless one of us goes back to watch it a second time. How much is it costing YouTube to host and stream? Obviously far more than what they make from any of us.

Now scale that up to millions.

The Fediverse isn't trying to do anything remotely like that.

[-] cuzit@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

This specific example is one thing that self hosting is arguably better for. I’ve made a few shitposting memes and the like that are five seconds long and uploaded unlisted just to share with friends that get immediately flagged and banned for DMCA that I’ve taken to just self hosting them. They’re getting like three views anyway because the world was never meant to see them.

People sharing videos with friends and family seems like a problem that’s already solved, if you really don’t want to use YouTube. Big channels that get millions of views are the real issue.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Self-hosting, certainly (to a degree anyway). But the Fediverse isn't self-hosted. I'm not keeping a catalog of comments on my computer that you lose access to when I close my laptop.

Self-hosting also tends to require dedicated hardware. Less of a big deal as the real cost of your own personal little server setup has plummeted. But still something that's predicated on always-on internet connectivity in a way that's not always practical.

[-] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 3 points 4 months ago

The other issue with self hosting is while I'm comfortable running web services on a server in my house on my local network I know I lack the competence to harden my server sufficiently to open up a web streaming interface to the web.

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Enshittification

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What is enshittification?

The phenomenon of online platforms gradually degrading the quality of their services, often by promoting advertisements and sponsored content, in order to increase profits. (Cory Doctorow, 2022, extracted from Wikitionary) source

The lifecycle of Big Internet

We discuss how predatory big tech platforms live and die by luring people in and then decaying for profit.

Embrace, extend and extinguish

We also discuss how naturally open technologies like the Fediverse can be susceptible to corporate takeovers, rugpulls and subsequent enshittification.

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