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President Joe Biden, who has pledged support for Israel amid the country’s ongoing war with Hamas that has left more than 37,000 Palestinians dead, claimed in a recent interview that he’s “the guy that did more for the Palestinian community than anybody.”

The president also defended his support for the Israel — his administration approved a bill to provide $26 billion in additional wartime aid to the country in April — and called himself a Zionist. “If there weren’t an Israel, every Jew in the world would be at risk,” said Biden. “And so there’s a need for it to be strong.” He added, “By the way, I’m the guy that did more for the Palestinian community than anybody. I’m the guy that opened up all the assets. I’m the guy that made sure that – I got the Egyptians to open the border to let goods through, medicine, and food,” Biden said. “I have been very supportive of the Palestinians, but Hamas, they’re a bunch of thugs.”

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

“If there weren’t an Israel, every Jew in the world would be at risk,”

Does this make sense to anyone else? I can't logically connect the existence of Israel to the safety of Jews everywhere. Does he think if Israel existed in the 1930s the Holocaust wouldn't have happened? Why?

[-] Iceblade02@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago

It likely would've been a lot less severe at the very least. As many as 300'000 German jews were waiting for US visas at the dawn of WW2. Immigration restrictions meant that the vast majority of them would be unable to flee the Nazi regime.

There are infamous tales of ships such as the M.S St. Louis or SS. Drottningholm each carrying hundreds of refugees being forced to return across the Atlantic.

That's not to dunk on the US. They were the single largest recipient of refugees (almost 100k). Next after was British Mandatory Palestine (60k) and then the UK itself (40k).

The fact of the matter is that millions of jews wanted to flee the oncoming storm, but noone would have them, and rather than be sheltered by their communities, protected, they were turned over to be slaughtered.

Even in the aftermath of the war, many of the home countries of concentration camp survivors refused to take them back. Jews now under communist regime would end up being subjected to further persecution.


I'll highlight something else. The past decade has seen a shocking resurgence of antisemitism in Europe, and contributed to a significant exodus that started in the early 2010s. At least where I live, the jewish community is all but gone, and I myself probably wouldn't remain if I wasn't fine with hiding my jewish heritage.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Far more went to Palestine according to even the israeli sources. From 84k in 1922 , to 449k in 1939 and after that a million colonists or so every 10 years.

Ultimately it would not solve much as the majority of Hitlers victims were not Jews but Slavs. So now we'd have to find a home for those 20 million Eastern European people as well so Hitler wouldn't Genocide them. Move everyone in that Hitler didn't like to colonize Africa or the Middle east and Genocide the natives there. All problems solved as long as you don't consider brown and black people as humans and steal their land. Sprinkle some irony on top.

Israel is literally the least safe place in the world for "Jews" right now. Jews are perfectly safe in America and Europe.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

Slavs were killed in battle.

This comment is getting dangerously close to holocause denialism.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The majority killed were civilians.

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