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As a European it makes me proud to get a direct shout out from Linus 🫶🏻
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this post was submitted on 16 Jul 2024
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I'm European, but I don't get your excitement. Everybody has summer vacations, no? Not just Europeans. So what's the deal?
Most people over school age in the US do not get a summer vacation. Most are lucky if they have enough vacation hours to rub together to cover a random illness so they don't have to work while barely able to function for being too sick.
And I'm not even close to joking or exaggerating.
It's fucking bad here. We're horribly jealous.
I'm extremely fortunate for having 5 weeks of vacation per year, and half of that is only because of working extra on the weekends to bank extra time. And good luck getting approval to take more than about a week of it at a time.
It's definitely not great here at all, though I'd say it's a bit different for professional software developers (who probably make up the bulk of contributors), since that kind of job tends to give you better benefits. In my experience, it's typical to either have unlimited PTO (that you may or may not be able to take, admittedly, though I've never had an issue with that), or at least a couple weeks of vacation a year. I've never worked anywhere as a software engineer where I had to really even account for sick time at all. I just tell my team I'm sick and that's about it.
In the US, because the minimum required by law is so low, the actual distribution of vacation days varies a lot from employer to employer.
This chart, updated annually, shows the average by length of service time: https://www.bls.gov/charts/employee-benefits/paid-leave-sick-vacation-days-by-service-requirement.htm
Seems like the average for people in the private sector with 1 year is 7 days sick, 11 days vacation.
This fact sheet, as of 2021, breaks down the details a bit more: https://www.bls.gov/ebs/factsheets/paid-vacations.htm
Table 1 breaks it down pretty well, with people at the 1 year mark hovering mostly between 1-3 weeks, people at the 5 year mark mostly between 2-4 weeks, and people with 10 years at 3+ weeks.
People with government jobs, which is about 15% of the workforce and about 20 million workers, tend to get better benefits, including paid time off.