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Jack Black axes tour over bandmate's Trump comment
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Serious question for anyone who believes political violence is never ok: at what point on the timeline do you think it was ok to respond to Hitler with violence?
1923 Beer Hall Putsch? SA violence in the early 30s? The Nazi party being sworn into power in 1933? Reischstag Fire? Night of the Long Knives?
Trump already has the support of a bought and paid for corrupt court, and we've already had Jan 6th. He's promised to be dictator on day 1.
Is political violence truly never the answer?
It never the answer to advocate for it in a non-political venue where you're part of a group that can associated with your comment without their consent. He torpedoed their careers as a band.
I hate Trump, but I don't want him to be made a martyr and I'd be pissed off if I was Jack Black and this guy fucked up our public performances without my knowing about it first.
I really doubt he torpedoed their careers. The joke was no worse than lots of jokes Trump has made, such as about Nancy Pelosi's husband. If the partnership ends, it's because of Jack Black, not because of people clamoring for them to stop touring.
Repeating from another comment: It won't be safe for them to perform in public, at least in the short term. They had to cancel this tour because the dude goaded literally crazy mother fuckers with guns. This isn't like when the Dixie Chicks criticized Bush. This painted a target on their backs.
Targets on their back while touring Australia, which has gun control? There are trump supporters and right wing nutjobs here but its a different political and legal atmosphere than america.
He did this as he feared being canceled IMHO, more than fear for safety. If it was safety, they would say that. Likely there was already the start of a relationship breakdown. Or jack feared more for his movie career as he is likely lined on both sides of the political spectrum.
First they came for the minstrels.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05-25/perth-mother-and-daughter-killed-in-double-murder-suicide/103892146
Turns out someone was recently shot in Perth. Looks like it is possible, even with WA's new gun laws.
Furthermore unless the world done shrank on me, a "world tour" I would surmise isn't just exclusive to Aus and then they live there and never leave. Chances are at some point that tour (or y'know, going home) would bring them back to the states.
Yes, gun control is not no guns.
If it was about riaj, they could cancel just the american part. Or would that increase the risk.
Is cancellong the non USA parts appeasing the violent right even more?
Your argument isn't holding water.
My "argument" was "they totally could get shot outside the US."
Seems you agree that it is possible to be shot outside the US. Your argument isn't holding water.
Its possible to be hit by a meteorite. We were talking risk, not possibility. At least I was. The chance of being shot for anyone in Australia is extremely low. The chance of being shot is high in America, relative to most other countries and all other developed countries. Its not even close.
Tbf, the odds of getting shot in America are still pretty low too, it's about 12k/350mil/yr, whatever the math is on that. It is possible though however unlikely, so maybe that answers your "targets on their back while touring aus blah blah gun control" question. Evidentially, it is indeed possible to be shotbin Australia.
Low, in absolute terms. Relatively, its incredibly high.
Like 40 times higher. As I mentioned, it is possible they could be hit by a meteor, but even more unlikely. By your logic, the realaroce risk is nor important, so we could just as easily say that's the reason for the cancelation.
Nobody said it was impossible to get shot in Australia. It just doesn't make sense in context to be a reason to cancel shows in Australia.
Well the main difference is I don't think it's possible for meteors to target famous people for political reasons, where it is entirely possible for humans of any nationality to do so, and since there are guns and people do get shot in aus, the chance is greater than 0%, and seemingly this was enough for JB.
Frankly if you know it's possible why feign incredulity?
I'm hoping they get back together after some of the heat dies at least.