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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Buttflapper@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

Social media platforms like Twitter and Reddit are increasingly infested with bots and fake accounts, leading to significant manipulation of public discourse. These bots don't just annoy users—they skew visibility through vote manipulation. Fake accounts and automated scripts systematically downvote posts opposing certain viewpoints, distorting the content that surfaces and amplifying specific agendas.

Before coming to Lemmy, I was systematically downvoted by bots on Reddit for completely normal comments that were relatively neutral and not controversial​ at all. Seemed to be no pattern in it... One time I commented that my favorite game was WoW, down voted -15 for no apparent reason.

For example, a bot on Twitter using an API call to GPT-4o ran out of funding and started posting their prompts and system information publicly.

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/chatgpt-bot-x-russian-campaign-meme/

Example shown here

Bots like these are probably in the tens or hundreds of thousands. They did a huge ban wave of bots on Reddit, and some major top level subreddits were quiet for days because of it. Unbelievable...

How do we even fix this issue or prevent it from affecting Lemmy??

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[-] asap@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Add a requirement that every comment must perform a small CPU-costly proof-of-work. It's a negligible impact for an individual user, but a significant impact for a hosted bot creating a lot of comments.

Even better if you make the PoW performing some bitcoin hashes, because it can then benefit the Lemmy instance owner which can offset server costs.

[-] dan@upvote.au 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

How would this be enforceable, though? Part of the benefit of the Fediverse is that multiple different apps can communicate with each other (for example, you can see Lemmy posts on Mastodon). Even if Lemmy implements something like this, what's to stop someone from commenting using a different app that doesn't implement it?

I'm actually surprised we don't see more spam on ActivityPub-powered systems, since spammers don't even need to have an account with Lemmy, Mastodon, etc and could instead have their own ActivityPub server to send the spam. I guess they don't do that since the spam instance would be defederated pretty quickly.

[-] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

it would have to be fundamental to the platform, i believe a few platforms have something similar where this generates a unique "key" used to identify the user.

I think I2P does this?

[-] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

If the bots are already using gpt4 then a little crypto heat is essentially the same thing

you'd still need to front it on the bot farm side though. Shit's still costly.

Regardless, if it's not enough, just make it more lmao.

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