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[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is a tough and complex issue, because tech companies using algorithmic curation and control mechanisms to influence kids and adults is a real, truly dangerous issue. But it's getting torn at from all sides to force their own agendas.

Allowing large corporations to control and influence our social interactions is a hugely dangerous precedent. Apple and Google and huge telcos may be involved in delivering your text messages, but they don't curate or moderate them, nor do they send you texts from other people based on how they want you to feel about an issue, or to sell you products. On social media, companies do.

But you've got right-wingers clamoring to strip companies from liability protections from user-generated content, which does not address the issue, and is all about allowing the government to dictate what content is acceptable from a political standpoint (because LGBTQ+ content is harmful ^/s^ and they want companies to censor it).

And you've got neolibs and some extremely misguided progressives pushing for sites that allow UGC (which is by definition all social media) to have to check ages of their users by implementing ID checks (which also of course treats any adults without an accepted form of ID as children), which just massively benefits large companies who can afford the security infra to do those checks and store that data, and kills small and medium platforms, all while creating name-and-face tracking of peoples' online activities, and legally mandating we turn over more personal data to corporations...

...and still doesn't address the issue of corporations exerting influence algorithmically.

tl;dr the US is a corporatist hellscape where 90% of politicians serve corporations either willfully, or are trivially manipulated to.

PS: KOSA just advanced out of committee.

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago

I mean I agree with that in principle, but: before the Internet, of course big corporations influenced kids and adults! Before the internet only big corporations had the resources and practical ability to distribute any information to a lot of people.

The promise of the internet was that we would have a society where we could all have a say and the flow of information would be democratized. You are right that, because of "algorithms", that promise hasn't really been fulfilled.

[-] t3rmit3@beehaw.org 3 points 2 days ago

I'm not anti-internet at all, I'm all for the internet; I just think it's best when it's by and for individuals.

If I had my way, I'd ban corporations from operating anything online but digital storefronts. :P

[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago

I certainly agree that the Internet should be by and for individuals; whether we can in the long term do completely without corporations, I am not sure, but the current "algorithmic curation" is definitely a problem.

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