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[-] moon@lemmy.cafe 381 points 3 weeks ago

What is he talking about, public WiFi can easily poison and monitor your DNS requests (most people don't know or use encrypted DNS), and there's still tons of non-https traffic leaks all over the place that are plain text. Even if encrypted, there's still deep packet inspection. VPNs can mitigate DPI techniques and shift the trust from an easily snoopable public WiFi to the VPN's more trustworthy exit servers.

This guy really needs to elaborate on what he's trying to say when the cyber security field very much disagrees with this stance. I'm not a huge fan of Proton, but they aren't doing anything wrong here. You should use it for public Wi-Fi.

[-] Fontasia@feddit.nl 28 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, while it is true, lots of VPN companies are grifts just buying VPS's and installing OpenVPN, this "Cyber security expert" puts far too much faith in HTTPS and probably never seen a lecture from the Black Hat conference

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 10 points 3 weeks ago

probably never seen a lecture from the Black Hat conference

Not defending Robert Graham because I'm also eyebrow raising his statement. And while you may be 100% correct that he never actually stayed to listen to a lecture, he absolutely spoke at a lot of them since 2000.

https://infocondb.org/presenter/robert-graham

[-] Fontasia@feddit.nl 12 points 3 weeks ago

My bad for judging without checking ๐Ÿ˜”

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Many VPNs using OpenVPN is...fine.

The value adding is the VPN infrastructure they're providing. You can't just install the standard OpenVPN client and expect it to DO anything without some kind of service.

True on the HTTPS thing.

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