811
Harris Tried to Win Over Republicans. Democratic Support Collapsed Instead.
(www.rollingstone.com)
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 08 Nov 2024
811 points (96.8% liked)
politics
19089 readers
1668 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Why do people keep saying Democrats. These were not Democrats. They were political apathetics who were so dumb they didn't see a difference between an existential threat to America, convicted felon, and pathological liar... And a woman with a clean record.
No actual Democrat gave up voting for Harris because of the obvious reach to Republicans who saw that existential threat.
They gave up because of disinformation silos and the economy, stupid
Is this intended to be a parody of a No True Scotsman?
Voting Democrat temporarily does not make you a Democrat no differently than Liz Cheney voting for Harris or the first-time low-propensity voter who thinks "they're all the same, but since covid impacted me I'm getting rid of the current guy." People just voted against Trump more than they were voting for Biden or his policies. They just wanted him out and to try something different purely because of covid.
This time around, those people just said, "Both Sides." And sat out. Presumably because they drank the Russian Kool-Aid and live in media silos.
That said, I misread the title and paragraph not referencing Democrat, but Democratic support, so my mistake.
Cool-aide, silos and two parties who both neglected the little guy given that their wealthy backers can't stomach doing so. Yes the Democrats ignore them less (Joe Biden's effort to forgive student loans) but it wasn't enough, and Trump says what desperate people want to hear I guess.
Trump gives his little guys entertainment and the promise to hurt the types of people they don't like. His little guys are well-accounted for, just not in a way that would ever make them not stuck at the bottom. Their propaganda has made them think the problems in their lives are trans minority immigrants rather than the boss that hasn't given them a pay raise in three years because "times are tight".
You had it right the first time, people voted for change in 2020, and they did it again this time. Same same.
It's more accurate to say Trump's base cult voted like a cult and will always vote for him no matter. This evidenced by the fact that Trump may or may not even break his 2020 numbers despite even population growth.
It's not just that these people voted for change as in all those millions who voted for Biden in 2020 voted for Trump; they just didn't vote for anything at all.
New voters voted for him too. All you saw was that they wouldnt choose kamala over trump, even if she tried to act like she would bring the old school republican party back.
People are being taken advantage of worse than ever, and only one party would admit that and talk about fixing it. Thats the party that won.