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[-] atocci@lemmy.world 91 points 2 months ago
[-] sxan@midwest.social 45 points 2 months ago

Factorio.

The factory must grow.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

I like to describe the aliens that attack you in factorio as environmentalists.

[-] Retrograde@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

They hate that fresh, artisanal air

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[-] Retrograde@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I just got done with an 8 hour factorio session so this meme resonated

[-] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

The factory must grow

[-] GreatRam@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

I feel so bad cutting trees and draining lakes 😔

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 points 2 months ago

But your corporate overlords demand it, sadness isn't efficient, get back to work!

But really they did a great job with commentary. People still say "why can't we get green energy in the game?". Because that's not the point. This is raw capitalism. You're dropped on a pristine planet, destroy the environment, clear it of all natural resources. It's &meant_ to make you feel guilty. Maybe look around outside

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[-] Gork@lemm.ee 78 points 2 months ago
[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

That’s just Evil, if we build an industrial park there where will the ~~slaves~~ ~~forced labor~~ ~~work bit*hes~~

*Due to recent very public events our Public relations officer has been sent on leave with pay instead Nataly will complete this statement.

That’s just Evil, if we build an industrial park there where will the (Checks Notes) Employees park there cars?

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[-] ech@lemm.ee 46 points 2 months ago

Avatr is about capitalism

That wasn't glaringly obvious to everyone?

[-] hogmomma@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Like, to absolutely everyone? This ranks up there with "breathing is good."

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

you forget the kind of people who complain that wolfenstein games or the x-men animated series "became" political

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Some people are dense enough that “the point” is the name of a baseball bat you have to go get to get it across.

It was also about the poor soldiers getting used to further capitalism.

Honestly, though…. That military wasn’t very credible. Half their aircraft you could disable by dumping buckets of pebbles into the fans.

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[-] egrets@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it.

- Jack Handey

[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 33 points 2 months ago

Yeah man, we all understood that the first time around when it was called Fern Gully.

Like Avatar if you want but like.... it is not a deep piece of media with hard-to-discern messaging. Shit is pretty clear.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

Fucking Tarzan was fighting evil white exploiters of pristine Africa in books back in the early 1900s.

A good white saviour from the evil white people, because the indigenous can't do it for themselves. Just like in Ferngully and Avatar.

[-] Vespair@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

I can't decide if I should post the "wait, it's all the failures of capitalism?" or "wait, it's all systemic racism?" meme, cuz it's wait it's all both (always has been).

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[-] Maven@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 months ago

One time I unmatched someone from a dating app because the second avatar movie was coming out and they said that it was weird of me to say that the alien people were supposed to represent Native Americans because "they're just blue aliens why would you compare them to real life?"

Apparently media literacy makes you a weirdo?

[-] algorithmae@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 2 months ago

Yes it definitely makes you weird. Turn the brain off and consume the media like a good little sheep (/s if it wasn't obvious)

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

I'm torn, because there's an idea that industrial capital only knows how to consume and destroy what it touches. And there's ample evidence to that effect.

But there's this other more naive notion that life never changes, species don't compete for habitat, and doing anything to alter the local ecology is this unforgivable sin. This, despite the fact that everything in the area is itself a product of eons of speciation and evolution and carnivorization.

The impulse to preserve has to be balanced with the expectation for change. The goal should be symbiosis, not stasis.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

The issue is that you're changing the ecosystems and environments so much that all those eons of evolution are simply lost. The only other times this happens is during natural catastrophes. Sure, in the long run this allows new life forms to take the old ones places, but it's still a massive loss of diversity and evolutionary knowledge - and unnecessary suffering for millions of living beings.

When species compete for a habitat, they rarely destroy it - and those species that do either don't survive for long, or they wipe out large swaths. We're actively killing almost anything in our habitats, and destroying them for almost all previous species.

[-] thawed_caveman@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

The idea that nature is precious and must be preserved is human-centric.

Trees caused an extinction event when they appeared by absorbing all the carbon dioxyde and radically changing the atmosphere. But we feel bad when we're the ones doing it

[-] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Explore, exploit, exterminate.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Holy shit! Avatar is about capitalism? How did I miss that?! I better rewatch it and see if it's a recurring theme.

[-] ours@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Wait until you learn about its subtle ecological message!

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[-] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 16 points 2 months ago

Satisfactory music starts playing

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[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 2 months ago

That comic also represents 100% of all survival crafting games, plus Factorio

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[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 months ago

Don’t forget about the part from the intro (might have been cut from the theatrical release):

They can fix a spine, if you have the money. But not from a VA check. Add $5 and you get yourself a cup of coffee.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Oh, they got whales? Let’s take their brain oil for eternal life!

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

The take on immortality in Avatar 2 is really interesting, because both sides get to have it.

spoilerBut on one side of the fence, you've got a familial connection that echoes through eternity with the spirits of one's family forever surrounding you and offering guidance.

On the other side of the fence you just have Eternal Employment, in which your immortal mind is a captive instrument for the profit of your masters.

One is this transcendent euphoric existence and the other is an allusion to hell itself.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

Does this imply communism wouldn't extract resources?

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's what I was wondering. Capitalists didn't invent exploitation of nature, it just so happened that its worldwide adoption coincided with unprecedented technological advances. There's quite a few examples of historical societies that exploited nature as much as they could and suffered for it.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 2 months ago

I saw the film in a theater with someone who wanted to impress upon me that someone pointed out to her how alike it was to what happened to indigenous peoples in the Americas (someone else had pointed that out to her, so she assumed I wouldn't get it on my own). I was like, if you think that's a novel observation, you really need to be hit in the face with concepts to understand things. It couldn't have been more obvious.

But maybe that highlights how much some people just aren't observant or introspective or whatever else. It would explain a lot.

[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Avatar is just recycled CGI Fern Gully anyway

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So... We manage to master space travel. We manage to master interstellar travel. We eventually find a planet with suitable environment for sustaining our species. And we just overlook it.

Can someone explain me the reasoning behind this?

Sci-fi to the side, there are more minerals available - readily - on asteroids and barren planets than anywhere else. Why go hopping around looking for habitable planets, to the reason of 1 out of who knows how many, to then strip mine it?

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

The resource being extracted on the avatar planet was unobtanium.

It was only available on that planet, precisely so intelligent people like you can’t say “why not mine barren rocks instead”?

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[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 9 points 2 months ago

The realization that we probably wouldn't change how we are make me a bit glad we missed the chance to be a spacefaring civilization and are screwed here. The universe didn't need that, one planet ruined is enough.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 7 points 2 months ago

I've found peace recently thinking about our blue planet. We may cause chaos for a bit, but in the grand scheme, it'll be fine. The rivers will run, the oceans will be blue, plants and animals will eventually, over tens of thousands of years and longer will be fine.

Humanity is fucked, we destroyed our chances because we as a society could never get over our greed, but the problems we cause will be temporary. Over time the planet itself will heal. We just won't be here for it.

That being said, it's why I'm choosing not to have kids.

[-] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Literally Satisfactory

[-] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

That was not a subtle theme...

[-] PanArab@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

It is also about settler colonialism. There are natural gas fields off the coast of Gaza.

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