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Reason number 5,386 to delete your Reddit account and encourage your friends & loved ones to do the same.

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Good god the title is very misleading. The grand jury hearing isn't until April 14. It's still chilling that the administration will go to these lengths to apparently silence criticism, but I'm not convinced there is more to this story. Although the reddit user in question is enlisting a civil liberties group to represent him, I'm thinking he/she may not be a terrorist mastermind who is a danger to the American people.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That doesn't sound misleading in the slightest, because that's not the definition of misleading. It sounds like a fucking lie.

[-] einlander@lemmy.world 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Actual title:

A Secret Grand Jury Is Seeking the Identity of a Reddit User Who Criticized ICE

It's completely unclear what illegal thing the user is supposed to have done, other than dislike ICE.

[-] voidsignal@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

ah pedonald trying to scare people. fuck him with a retractable baton.

[-] lemmyng@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

That might bring him pleasure.

Dip him in acid.

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[-] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago
[-] osanna@lemmy.vg 14 points 1 month ago

Once again, just in case no one heard, FUCK ICE

[-] null@lemmy.org 32 points 1 month ago

They can't fucking WAIT until this ID verification goes through. Literally frothing at the mouth for it.

[-] 13igTyme@piefed.social 20 points 1 month ago

This is a reminder to everyone. If you or someone you know is still on Reddit. Use an extension to bulk deleted everything before deleting the account. You're friends and family are not safe posting on reddit.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I am no fan of reddit but in this case Reddit appears to have championed this users anonymity going so far as to actively draw the ire of the administration.

  • Reddit refused to comply with the initial administrative subpoena
  • the Federal government came back with this grand jury subpoena and warned Reddit not to disclose the existence of the subpoena or they’d consider it interference in federal law enforcement
  • Reddit complied with this new legally binding subpoena, but did not comply with the demand to keep it a secret. In the contrary, they immediately alerted the user of the subpoena which allowed him time to immediately lawyer up.

You’re not wrong that you’re not safe posting on Reddit, but if this case is any indication you’re not any less safe posting in Reddit than any other site, including Lemmy.

[-] tal@lemmy.today 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You’re not wrong that you’re not safe posting on Reddit, but if this case is any indication you’re not any less safe posting in Reddit than any other site, including Lemmy.

You can choose the location (and thus legal jurisdiction) of your home instance, but yeah, in general, I think that people need to be aware that server operators on the Threadiverse are probably not going to fight legal battles on your behalf.

We had someone ask about turning over IP addresses to law enforcement a while back on lemmy.today. The lemmy.today server admin gave what I'd call probably a pretty accurate answer.

https://lemmy.today/post/7255213

How will Lemmy Today handle IP subpoenas?

Lemmy instances are run by volunteers who wants to see a social media network without big tech.

I dont think you can trust any of those volunteers, including this one, to not comply with law enforcement. Thats not why we are running instances. Its about providing a platform without tracking, ads and algorithms for talking to other people and having a good time.

Hope that makes sense.

Use a VPN if you have a reason to. :)

It linked to a similar question for lemmy.dbzer0.com:

How will dbzer0 handle IP subpoenas?

Don’t know man. I’m not making enough in donations to pay for the server costs, never mind hiring lawyers. I’ll deal with this when I have to 😅

There are platforms more-aimed at providing harder pseudonymity. I'd put Hyphanet fairly high on the list of "a pain in the ass to track a poster down due to technical barriers" list (though that comes with very real performance and latency and suchlike costs).

[-] Quokka@quokk.au 6 points 1 month ago

To answer for Quokk.au. If I had to, I’d delete the instance and all data before ever handing anything over. They can take me to court if need be.

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[-] mrbeano@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 month ago

They've had difficulty convincing grand juries to indict in other sketchy cases. I have to wonder what super secret group of totally-not-ICE-officials this was approved by.

[-] spongebue@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Grand juries are usually formalities with a very low bar. There's a phrase that you can indict a ham sandwich. Not getting a "true bill" is honestly an embarrassment that many prosecutors never see in their entire career.

I could have seen this get blocked here, but there are still many steps ahead, each will get harder to move forward with.

Fun fact: I just wrapped up a case as a juror (not a grand juror) this morning. We rendered a verdict of not guilty because there was plenty of reasonable doubt to be had.

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[-] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

The most absurd part of this is their inability to dox someone for a month. Give a handful of bored nerds any motivation and they'd have it figured out in a day or two.

[-] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

Be grateful they are incompetent.

[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 2 points 1 month ago

The Reddit hivemind is a bit like AI, now that I think about it.

They'll give you a confident, reasonable sounding answer. Any accuracy will be completely accidental.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 month ago

Well you see, most of reddit bots/comments are AI generated. it comes from 2 camps, 1 from propaganda, and the other (reddit targets with thier own AI moderation) the OF/ link /business droppers/ads that are warming up thier accoutns with random comments(in non-propaganda way) or posting it.

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

These days I'm pretty sure most of the Reddit hivemind is AI.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago
[-] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Go figure. Reddit really has tanked

[-] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Today is a good day to use Lemmy.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

i heard its a "secret grand jury" whatever that means, probably chosen only jurors that would vote in thier favors, aka literally choosing biased jurors. since reddit is half or more as bots, it will be funny if they only found its a bot from another country. i have a hunch that reddit does not reveal thier bot activities, or how they are allowing them.

[-] Bazell@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

So, the rule is very old already, actually: You can't criticize ICE on Reddit if you're an American citizen, because of this. And you can't criticize ICE, Israel, Trump and etc. on Reddit even if you're are not the USA citizen - because of bans on platform.

[-] Manjushri@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago

OP's headline does not match the article linked in any way. I don't know if the site changed the article or what, but the Grand Jury has not ordered Reddit to turn over any data.

a subpoena issued by federal prosecutors to the management of Reddit, representatives of the site have been ordered to appear before a grand jury in Washington D.C., with an April 14 deadline set in an attempt to compel Reddit to volunteer personal data and the identity of a user who had the temerity to lightly criticize Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) on the platform.

Essentially, they have ordered Reddit to send representatives to be badgered into volunteering the user's information.

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[-] wavebeam@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I heard the heavier ones love it when you call them ICEburgs

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[-] minorkeys@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The masses are fucking morons and a threat to anyone trying to actually improve anything. Don't hold your breath for them to abandon their dopamine dispensers.

[-] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Just pull the Faux Nooz defense. No sane person would take me seriously.

OR follow your orange leader's example of "can't you take a joke?"

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[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.

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