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Court ruling bars Apple from charging 27% commission on purchases outside the App Store (alternativeto.net)
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cross-posted from: https://europe.pub/post/390943

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[-] dwazou@jlai.lu 50 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Imagine if Microsoft banned Windows users from downloading software outside the Microsoft store.

Imagine if Microsoft required all Software developers to give them 30% of their income or be banned from Windows

This is nothing but pure extortion.

Thank god for the EU, which forced Apple to back down:

Fortnite, one of the world's biggest video games, is available as an iPhone app for the first time in four years. However, it will only be available to players in the European Union. This is because EU law requires Apple to allow third-party app stores on its devices - other parts of the world do not have comparable legislation. The game was removed from the App Store in 2020 following a payments row between Apple and Epic.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c70j5rx72yvo

As for canadians/americans, they are in jail.

Imagine your friend in Europe sends you a phone invite to play .

-"Oh. I'm sorry but I am not allowed to do that 😢"

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 week ago

The only reason these things haven’t happened is that Microsoft was banned from doing them back in the 90s. They absolutely wanted to require a Microsoft Account (then called a Passport) in Windows XP. The ban was in place until just after Windows 7 came out.

Blame the government for doing nothing to protect consumers since 1999.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Apple doesn’t ban Mac users from downloading software outside the App Store.

Microsoft bans Xbox users from downloading unlicensed software.

[-] theherk@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

That this completely true observation has twice the downvotes than upvotes highlights this community’s views on Apple.

[-] dwazou@jlai.lu 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The Xbox doesn't have the majority of the gaming market.

The smartphone market is basically a duopoly.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

This says Xbox has over 60% of global market share:

https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/console/worldwide/

[-] unautrenom@jlai.lu 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Nintendo 0%

Doubtful. These numbers provided are completely wrong. Back when files were leaked during this very trial, Epic revealed they had 3 to 4 times more players on Playstations than Xboxes everywhere other than the US.

Accorsing to Statista (accesible on a third party site if you want to avoid registring), Xbox only has 23% of the market (as opposee to PS's 45% and Nintendo's 27%).

I don't like Microsoft, and I agree sideloading should be a thing on consoles too, but they definitely do not hold a majority of the console market, let alone a monopoly.

[-] dwazou@jlai.lu 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fair enough.

I think hardware companies should make money selling devices. They should be banned from jailing their users in a locked proprietary ecosystem.

[-] TheMcG@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Tbh I think that data is incredibly misleading. Every single generation of PlayStation has outsold the Xbox of the same generation(yes even the ps3) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_game_consoles.

Additionally looking at the faq for that site it appears to get its data via page views. What % of console users actually use the browser? Is bet very few. Especially when you consider the ps5 has no built in browser.

[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Noe does iOS, Android has the vast majority of the smartphone market

[-] IamAnonymous@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

There is no restriction on Macs, which is equivalent to Windows. You picked Microsoft just to make a straw man argument.

We need to see these changes across all mobile devices and gaming consoles. All of them are charging around 30% fee and devices are locked in. Hope this is just the beginning.

[-] tabular@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Device lock-in is a symptom of a wider issue: the users are not in control of their computing. Charging for services is fine but a company deciding what you are allowed to do with your own property is unjust.

Change their post to say Microsoft's old phone brand OS instead of desktop Windows and what changes? You don't need to pick an equivalent to highlight a single aspect for comparison when arguing for a position.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago

So basically Windows in S mode?

[-] GeekySalsa@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

At least you could disable S mode

[-] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

On X86 only I think.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago

Damn. Epic's on a roll in my news feed this morning.

[-] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Maybe Randy finally redeemed himself?

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Now do Xbox, Nintendo, and PS5 stores.

[-] restingboredface@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

Isn't this charging model the same reason Kindle stopped allowing in app purchases? I thought they had said it was a Google play store thing though. Is Google doing it too or is there pricing something different?

[-] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yep, Apple forces all purchases through in app payment for any digital goods.

https://web.archive.org/web/20250428085353/https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/

[-] garretble@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Haha, get fucked.

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