Oblivion remake is... really making it apparent how outdated Bethesda is in its approach to making games (lemmy.world)

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I know there’s great love for Oblivion (I never played it when it was new), and of course Skyrim is the gold standard for new fans (I played the shit out of that and it was my first entry into the elder scrolls back when it came out 14 years ago…) but I really feel like this shadow drop of a half assed remake is just priming everyone to lower their expectations for the likely dumpster fire that is The Elder Scrolls VI.

I know its old hat nonsense of a complaint but whatever Bethesda used to be it stopped being that 20 years ago and we’re all just stuck thinking they’ll put out some new masterpiece when in reality all the talent they had back in the day has likely left for other jobs and they are now just a shitty company among countless other shitty companies putting profit over anything else and stifling anyone who might actually have good ideas on how to make good games (how unsurprising).

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[-] CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

This is such a silly take. After Starfield, I was still excited, but had very little "faith" in the next elder scrolls. After this remaster, I'm even more excited, and I think there is a good chance ES6 will be an absolutely beautiful game that I will play for years after its release.

They weren't trying to reinvent the wheel with this remaster, they merely demonstrated its possible to have classic BGS mechanics WITH modern day graphics and animations. Starfield made it seem like they had to choose between one or the other for future games, but this shows us we can have both!

[-] thezeesystem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago

Wasn't there a couple of modders who was making the older elder scrolls game into the Skyrim engine? Wouldn't it be easier on Bethesda to just hire them and other talented modders to do it?

[-] jayb151@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

I stopped paying attention to Bethesda when they released that Creator's Club (or whatever it was called) bullshit for FO4. That shit broke all the fucking mods I had, then they had the audacity to request $20 for a mod that was already freely available. I lost any respect I had for then in that moment.
I'm not giving them another dime...doesn't mean I won't still play their games though.

[-] Yokozuna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

If anything this has raised my bar for TES 6. I didn't play 4 just as you did and sunk an ungodly amount of time into 5. I also played fallout 3 at the time of launch so I feel like I'm fairly versed in Bethesdas formula.

The progress from 4 to 5 is obvious. They put a lot of love into making Skyrim better than its predecessor in tons of ways. With the absolute flop of Starfield, they're putting all their chips into TES 6 and they know it. They're going to stick to the core gameplay that everyone expects, but how they expand and improve upon it is really what will make or break them. If they get the story telling down, it's all up to the mechanics of the game and design of the world.

My bar has absolutely raised by them putting this remaster out.

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[-] clonedhuman@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe they're trying to get potential players of Elder Scrolls VI so hyped that they'll still play the new game even if it's sold 'games as a service' style

in which case, fuck that