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[-] drasticpotatoes@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

I feel really sad for anyone living in those states. People can't choose where they are born and usually are stuck wherever they end up for at least 18-20 years.

[-] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

And they are subject to the mental poison endemic to that region. It takes a long time and a lot of effort to purge that evil. I can speak from personal experience. It never goes away and it is a constant struggle to shout down that early indoctrination.

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[-] teft@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
  1. Texas
  2. Oklahoma
  3. Louisiana
  4. (tie) South Carolina
  5. (tie) Alabama
  6. Missouri
  7. Indiana
  8. Tennessee
  9. Arkansas
  10. Florida
[-] Ohthereyouare@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I personally agree with this list. But, we have to be pragmatic here. This is what CNBC says they did:

"The study measures quality of life issues including crime, health care, childcare and health care, as well as inclusive policies on discrimination and reproductive rights."

See, the last two skew this study. People in these shit hole states (not all, but at least enough of the voting public) don't want inclusive policies or reproductive rights. So, to them, this metric is backwards. They would argue that living in California or New York was way more terrible because of the brown people and gays.

This isn't exactly a scientific study. It's taking objective data to reach a subjective conclusion. Neat headline though.

Edit: many if them are arguing exactly that in this thread. With a nice dose of racism and misogyny thrown in. Nice. I love when shit comes full circle.

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I mean… if you want to move to one of these states as potentially any type of person (ie. perhaps not white and straight) then the inclusive policies are not an optional feature. If you’re a woman, having the government meddle in your health decisions can actually be life threatening.

For white, straight folks, and especially males, it’s easy to think these other two factors just subjectively improve life, but that’s because they already have a baseline level of respect and power in society.

Based on your take, I’d guess you’re straight, white and male.

[-] OwenEverbinde@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago

Granted, I'm also straight, white, and male... But there are a hell of a lot of women who support abortion bans AND adore Mr "Grab 'em by the Pussy!"

I know one who doesn't believe God would allow a dangerous, nonviable pregnancy to take hold in (or in the case of ectopic pregnancies, outside of) a woman's uterus. She just doesn't believe something as sacred as a uterus can have that kind of flaw built into it.

And even if you could convince her dangerous pregnancies were real, I think @Ohthereyouare@lem.ee was saying that Republican women would not agree that their ability to survive an ectopic pregnancy is good or worth it if it also helps the "sluts" they despise to have more "convenience abortions."

Surviving might seem pretty good to you and I, but that doesn't make that ability objectively desirable to the people voting against their own interests. And they would be offended if their access to healthcare was deemed "better" in a quality-of-life metric than access to a set of theocratic restrictions.

They would tell you, "well I'm happier. Liberals think they can speak for me just because I'm a woman and my opinion doesn't matter! But if they asked me, I'd tell them I would prefer to live in a place where the sanctity of life was valued! They'd have to censor me and edit me out of their videos because I wouldn't support their narrative!"

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Reproductive rights is healthcare.

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[-] d4rknusw1ld@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Weird it’s the south east whodathunkit.

[-] Danatronic@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is weird, because the entire point of racist ideology in America has historically been for personal gain by slaveowners, but now it's just objectively hurting their states' economies. Are they really getting that much benefit from exploitation like prison labor and such, or are they just so stuck in their ways that they'd rather feel powerful over others at their own expense?

[-] Gordon@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

They’d rather feel powerful over others at their own expense?

Yes. Was there ever a question? This is the conservative ideology.

[-] Danatronic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

I guess we wouldn't have LeopardsAteMyFace if it wasn't :/

Lost the Civil War and still losing today. "Loser" has become such a generic insult that it obscures the literally losing nature of so many people that live in this area.

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[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

This could be another huge talking point for Democrats, but once again, this great opportunity to ding Republican governance is going to be missed since Democrats are so utterly incompetent to sell their successes and attack their opponents.

The inflation rate has fallen down to 3%, which is one of the lowest in the industrialized world right now. Have there been Democrats all over the news selling that success? No, of course not. Gotta keep those wins well hidden, dontchaknow!

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[-] Kagami@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

What a shocking revelation.

[-] GodOfThunder@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

why don't you post this in a us community. I don't give a shit about this.

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[-] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago

Red states are shit holes, more news at 11.

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[-] Seris_@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I moved from MO to IL and never looked back

[-] RufusFirefly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Whether you think this has a political bias or not, no matter what whose list you look up, they all basically say the same thing.

[-] books@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Not a single state in that list was a surprise.

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