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[-] owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago

"If you want to destroy bigotry, you have to kill the bigots." How does that sound, Alan?

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Sounds better than what he said, you're not advocating for killing bystanders.

[-] nkat2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I came here to up-vote this comment. Thank you for posting it.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago
[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago

They're literally no better than Hamas at this point. Hamas's who deal is, "fuck it. We'll kill the innocent with the guilty, let Allah sort it out."

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

It's amazing that, even after realising that Zionists are dishonest fascists, you still unthinkingly accept their characterisation of Hamas.

[-] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Please give me: statistics on the bystanders killed by hamas vs. statistics on the bystanders killed by the Israeli occupation forces

EDIT: Misread comment, but hamas still clearly values human life more than Israel

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

It's actually a lot worse. The IDF has a much, much higher rate of civilians killed for every noncombatant than Hamas does. Hamas is objectively better at avoiding civilian casualties than the IDF is.

[-] SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Oh my bad, I misread your comment and thought you meant they're better than hamas.

I'm palestinian so I am biased, and I do obviously agree 100%

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago

Would be interesting to see the statistics, if someone has calculated them. I wonder if reservists count as combatants or noncombatants. Would skew the numbers a lot

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Well, the vast vast majority of Hamas fighters are what a regular military would classify as "reservists." Hamas are mostly part-time fighters who otherwise have regular civilian jobs and live regular civilian lives. (Or at least they did before the Gaza strip was blown to rubble.)

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 0 points 1 week ago

the IDF has indiscriminate bombings or attacks. hamas doesnt want to lose public favor from gazans.

[-] tux@feddit.it 7 points 1 week ago

Killing civilians is the best way to ensure that Hamas will have a steady supply of volunteers

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

If you're going to die anyways...

[-] foggianism@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

He has to defend Israel because he was on Blackmail Island and now they have controversial video material of him.

[-] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Isn't the attempt at that exactly how you get more hamas?

[-] variaatio@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Insurgencency operation math: 10 insurgents before - 2 killed insurgents = now you have 20 insurgents

[-] Rhaedas@fedia.io 0 points 1 week ago

He'd probably respond, "Not if you kill them all." Which of course has its own defined word that he'd deny.

Next step is when they publicly say that they're doing genocide, but only on "those" people. (let me guess, someone already did that maybe)

[-] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Ya no way some other group from somewhere else will pop up

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So what exactly is the difference between this and terrorism? (Nothing)

Wikipedia: Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 week ago

In particular, fear, or "terror". You can use violence without anyone knowing, and you can create fear without violence. The fear is the key factor.

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

That refines the definition but does not show a difference. There are reports of starving gazans too scared to show up to food distribution.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah, clearly, no difference.

[-] oakey66@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Lol. IDF headquarters is in downtown Tel Aviv. Every accusation is projection. We really need to stop listening to this sex pest.

[-] sndmn@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago
[-] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

he can be more than one thing, hes versatile

[-] sndmn@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Palestine has the right to defend itself.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 week ago

Israel doesn't

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

I think at some point you have to ask yourself "if killing 10s of thousands of innocent people is necessary to achieve my goal... does that make me the 'baddie'?"

[-] burnoutqueen@todon.nl 1 points 1 week ago

@RandAlThor

There is a special seat in hell for Alan 'Diddy' Dershowitz, if hell exists

[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Is that your final solution, Al?

[-] SheeEttin@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 week ago

He's correct, but that doesn't justify it. Just the opposite.

[-] sndmn@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

"If you want to destroy Israel you have to kill the civilians"

Is exactly the same logic.

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 week ago

That's the only viable strategy - if there was some number of Palestinian civilians that Hamas could operate among with impunity, it would do. I don't think Israel is currently fulfilling its obligation to protect civilians as much as is practically possible while still fighting a war effectively, but civilian casualties would be high even if it was simply due to the nature of urban warfare against an enemy operating among civilians who have nowhere to evacuate.

[-] pogt@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 week ago

Strategy? Genocidal much?

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 1 points 1 week ago

The fuck are you talking about.

Israel is actively aiming for and shooting unarmed civilians standing in line to get food for their starving families.

Fuck Israel fuck the IDF, and anyone who supports them

[-] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 week ago

I agree that the notion that Hamas can be defeated by denying it food, and furthermore that doing so justifies starving the civilian population, is indeed something I consider well outside the boundary of civilized warfare. The fact that Israel is doing that makes it hard to believe that it is seriously attempting to minimize civilian casualties in other ways. With that said, my point is that Dershowitz is still in principle correct.

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

And what do you personally think of this strategy?

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Could you please point in a map of Gaza to the areas you would consider it "acceptable" for Gazans to fight in.

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