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Maybe things can't only get better for Keir Starmer, as he is shamed with the latest polling just as the Labour conference begins

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[-] Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 39 points 1 week ago

He's not unpopular because he's worse than recent Tory leadership, he's unpopular because of how much of a disappointment he's been compared to people's expectations. Mandatory ID is surely going to improve things in that regard...

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[-] shadowedcross@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago

Labour is supposed to help the people they have been actively working against, it's no surprise he's wildly unpopular.

[-] Digit@lemmy.wtf 5 points 1 week ago

Here's a drinking game if you want to stay sober:

Take a drink every time you see someone who's working class, at a Labour Party conference.

They've long time lost their way.

[-] G4Z@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago

Angela Rayner, though of course she sold us out for a fucking flat in Brighton.

[-] Digit@lemmy.wtf 0 points 6 days ago

Oh that all working class were getting over £150,000 a year plus other benefits and expenses paid, and said to be worth nearly £5million.

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[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 week ago

🔴 Starmer – 13% satisfied, 79% dissatisfied 🔵 Liz Truss – 16% satisfied, 67% dissatisfied

It should be linked with average duration or something cos if the lettuce will have stayed longer she will have been minus

[-] Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 6 days ago

Who's setting up a lettuce stream? If lettuce streams become a tradition of unwelcome politicians I wouldn't be mad.

[-] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 18 points 1 week ago

Less popular than the cabbage?

[-] hellfire103@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

I won't lie, the cabbage was pretty popular. It was Truss who was less than useless as a politician.

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[-] steeznson@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Pretty safe to say he's over-hated. Even like colleagues of mine whom I suspect do not follow politics closely refer to him as things like "Kier Stalin".

Maybe I'm old fashioned but a PM is essentially an admin role -- why do we expect that they be inspirational too.

[-] JiffyBag@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I feel like people don't like him because he's as dull as dishwater. I am not a fan of Kier's politics, but I think he's practical and level headed. Following 14 years of a Tory shit show - I'm suprised people aren't happy with having someone like that in the job and winning some brownie points.

The biggest mistake he's making is that people expected a bit of a shift to oppose what the Conservatives were offering but instead he's also trying to appeal to the right of politics through a lurch to the right. He's not charasmatic or radical enough for that to succeed, so has pushed away the left only to fail to win over the right. Nobody likes him.

[-] hello_cruel_world@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The biggest mistake he's making is that people expected a bit of a shift to oppose what the Conservatives were offering

I think it might be the flip flopping, and not really knowing what direction he needs to take the country.

One minute it's this, next it's that. His dilly dallying with raynor when it was obvious her tenure was unsustainable. Then bringing in deeply unpopular policies like the OSA and digital id cards.

We have systems in place to counter illegal working. Why do we need the other id? We don't. It's a badly thought out rehash of what Blair was pushing in the naughties.

Then we have what most people perceive to be a two tier justice system, and you can start to see why he's unpopular.

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[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

Absolutely mental.

Kier is boring, has floated some things that the electorate doesn't like (e.g. taking WFA away from the wealthy), and has done a very poor job highlighting the good that this government is doing, but is he fuck worse than Boris, Truss, or even Sunak.

People need to get some damn perspective.

[-] eldebryn@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

His supposedly labour government has also doubled down on censoring wikipedia, calling people pedo-sympathizers for resisting absurd internet control laws that literally affect every digital facing international company, and is now promoting a digital ID straight out every digital era authoritatians or fascist's wet dreams.

Is he better than sunak? Probably? Kinda? That's a very low bar though and the fact that we even talk about it is sad. Their actions have been so much unlike what people think about when voting labour parties that it's surreal.

People reasonably feel cheated on given the party's supposed focus.

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[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago

It's the expectation.

Boris and Truss were abject morons and Sunak was an insulated, rich Tory. They were expected to be terrible and so we weren't surprised.

Starmer won in a landslide victory for Labour and went about screwing the poor, arresting old ladies, and presiding over genocide. Conservatives hate him because he's on the Red Team, and the Left hate him because he acts like a Tory.

If he'd run as a Tory, he'd be scoring higher than everyone since Cameron, but he was supposed to fix the mess, not make it worse.

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[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 12 points 1 week ago

Oh c'mon, he's no where near that bad.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago

It should be noted that The Canary is still fuming that Corbyn didn't get a third attempt to lose to the Tories.

I didn't vote for Starmer. I voted for Labour. If he's ineffective, replace him with somebody better equipped to deal with the threat of Reform.

I live in a shithole town with a migrant hotel, and let me tell you, this place will vote Reform next time. I'm sure sticking them there was cheaper than building proper facilities and hiring an appropriate number of people to process them and handle any needed deportations, but the cost of Reform will dwarf that.

[-] hector@lemmy.today 14 points 1 week ago

I am sure purging all the leftists and reformers out of the left Center option was the better strategy, on the backs of openly false allegations at that. /s

Labor is a fucking joke and it's going to hand England to the far right that will fix themselves into Power with the help of the US and Russia, same as macron is going to hand over france, and Europe is going to fall like fucking Domino's to Fascist governments because we have all allowed conservatives to seize our mainstream political parties and Ratchet privilege to the plutocracy. The only reform option is the far right.

[-] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago

The moderate left fully surrendered to every issue to the right, all in the name of "electability" and "incremental process to socialism", they chose fascism over being perceived as "pro-russian" and "tankies"

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