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The project, developed in partnership with veteran free software developer Rob Savoye, aims to create a fully free and open mobile platform, from the firmware to the operating system.

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[-] Ultraword@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 day ago

I really hope this is super based

[-] hereforawhile@lemmy.ml 41 points 2 days ago
[-] lennee@lemmy.world 55 points 2 days ago

gimme gimme

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago

Just because it's a libre phone, doesn't mean it's necessarily a linux phone. Or at least any more so than Android is a linux phone because it uses a heavily modified (almost unrecognizable) linux kernel.

There's nothing in the article that says they're just going to use a mainline linux kernel and throw a touch optimized version of some existing desktop on it (ubuntu touch, etc...)

Heck, they could be meaning that they're planning on making their own heavily modified kernel for their very own OS so as to skip all of the trouble that trying to make mainline linux into a handheld device has been so far. (similar to I believe how SailfishOS is doing it)

[-] compcube@lemy.lol 6 points 1 day ago

Finally, a GNU/Hurd phone! /s

[-] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 7 points 1 day ago

Why couldn't they just use usual Linux for that? Why a modified kernel? Is Linux as is not suitable for a phone?

Can't they just, idk, make a distro? Maybe from scratch? Pop!_OS is working on COSMIC. Can't they have their Linux-based OS, perhaps with its own things as needed, such as a phone-optimised DE? Or whatever the phone equivalent of a DESKTOP environment would be. A Mobile Environment, perhaps

If my laptop had touch screen with no other method of input built in, and were way smaller, could it not run Linux? Or is that different altogether?

[-] primal_buddhist@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Too many bits of a smartphone are proprietary hardware without open drivers.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 23 hours ago

I would assume that's the bit they're working on, otherwise there's no real point to the project IMO.

[-] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Linux by design gives the user enough rope to hang themselves with.

And that's certainly not a problem when dealing with tech enthusiasts who know what, when and where to touch to avoid messing things up. But when you're dealing with getting a phone into the hands of ordinary people, that isn't going to fly because all of those people will at some point start mucking around inside and then expect tech support when they mess up.

For mainstream adoption, the linux kernel must and the desktop environment must be at least somewhat locked down.

[-] FreeBooteR69@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

We have immutable distributions already, that is something that isn't a problem. It's replacing those pesky proprietary blobs used to talk to the hardware that is a headache.

Between capabilities, namespaces, control groups, mandatory access control (AppArmor etc) and other mechanisms, I think there are plenty of ways to reduce user access to any part of the system.

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[-] unexpected@forum.guncadindex.com 49 points 2 days ago

I'm celebrating!

As a linux phone guy this is good news. Any more pushing towards a more solid linux phone environment is a big plus.

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Damn. Software has existed 40 years now?

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[-] this@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago

My hopes and my expectations could not be more at odds with each other, and the only thing I know for sure is that one of them will be smashed.

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

As they would say: keep your hopes up and your expectation low to the ground

[-] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 36 points 2 days ago

Honestly as long as they can fucking get something moderately priced that supports VOLTE and a decent camera I’ll buy it

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

What a nice thing to do

[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 24 points 2 days ago

I'd rather see a stable OS and ecosystem for good, Free apps that we can flash onto existing devices. I'm quite happy with my Fairphone (repairable! modular! ethical!) and we know that building and marketing a device is painfully expensive.

Let's make Debian or Arch just work on most phones instead of trying to compete in a saturated market.

[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

Mobian is Debian designed for phones. PostmarketOS is another project doing the same thing, but with an alpine Linux base.

[-] Ferk@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There isn't much concrete information, but my guess is that OS/ecosystem is exactly what this project is, and that they are not talking about physical hardware. Specially considering that they are putting the emphasis on free software (not hardware) and they are involving a software developer. Making a phone's hardware free would be an entirely different beast.

In the afternoon, FSF executive director Zoë Kooyman announced an exciting new project: Librephone.

Librephone is a new initiative by the FSF to bring full computing freedom to mobile computing environments. The LibrePhone Project is a partnership with Rob Savoye, a developer who has worked on free software (including the GNU toolchain) since the 1980s. "Since mobile phone computing is now so ubiquitous, we're very excited about LibrePhone and think it has the potential to bring software freedom to many more users all over the world."

From the official FSF post about the event.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

work on most phones

A lot of the world can hardly get an unlockable phone.

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[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 15 points 2 days ago

Please god, help me find my keys! Tell St. Anthony I need my keys!

Also could you make this Foss phone be real and reasonably priced below the cost of a gaming PC?

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

I can't find any links to the project itself, only to announcements about the project. Anybody have anything more concrete? How far along is this project?

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[-] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 11 points 2 days ago

I'll use my de-Googled and update-blocked S23 until it's physically unable to boot up, and hopefully by then I'll find something that can run this OS, assuming it's ready

[-] LadyCajAsca@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

I guess I'll see phones with this in my local stores at.. 10 years? Too generous, maybe 15.

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Let's hope this lights a fire under Google's ass too, so everyone can have free and open phones.

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago

F-droid maybe we'll find a new good home then?

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