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Probably with unskippable advertisements.
Just removed the battery.
The question is does it run as silent as apple laptops?
Silence, at least under light load, is honestly such a nice feature.
Personally I'm fine with them taking the noise levels from the aerospace industry, too. My primary concern is how's the battery life?
well more noise usually goes hand in hand with worse battery life.
Most non-gaming laptops since 2010 don't really make noticeable noise
no, even in 2020 Intel Macs were noisy compared to apple silicon Macs.
How can fanless intel macbook air make noise?
Only the MacBook 12 was fanless from the Intel era, but I’m not too sure about that. Airs were never fanless while being Intel.
and that thing was a disaster.
Unfortunately, yes. I’m looking for a compact laptop, a typing machine of a kind, I’d use for typing texts in nvim. So I don’t care how slow it is, but I’d like it to be thin and light, with USB C adapter for charger. Even the battery life is not something I need to be high, all I care for it to handle a single writing session, of an hour or two. Ideally, I’d prefer the laptop to be cheap, I don’t need a typing machine for a grand. This laptop could be perfect for the task, yet it’s a disaster. So far, one of the best laptops I could find is a used MacBook Air 11, can get one for €50 to €100 these days.
Well if it’s anything like their previous models then it probably feels like it’s a toy. I remembered playing with a display model when I was thinking of buy it and was amazing by how flimsy it was.
On paper they seem like good laptops. But in practice?
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But... Do we need laptops any lighter than this? Like, I'm not moving around my 13 inch Macbook and thinking: "oh god this is a beast". My biggest issue with laptops now days is battery life and performance, both of which my Macbook meets perfectly. Not that I like the OS or the company tbh, especially as a FOSS enthusiast.
Yes. Weight reduction in one place means they can increase weight in other, like battery density or heftier components (are chips and heatsinks major contributors to weight?) without affecting total weight. Same way making a phone thinner allows you to add more battery.
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Macbook Air isn't just about the weight, the processor/horsepower are a draw. I have to wonder if LG can compete with Apple's performance, rather than just making a lighter laptop. The Macbook Air is already quite light. The Macbook Pro is a beast.
I'm guessing it'll pair horrible battery life with awful build quality like most Windows laptops tend to do. They're all focusing on being thin and light like a MacBook but none of them are close to what Apple has, because of that they loose everything that makes PCs special in the desperate attempt to achieve something Apple does better.
And then they all go to a landfill near you. When was LG a name on the laptop market?
Companies like this should not be allowed to churn crap like this
*Looks at a 5y old G14 that gives a modern m4 Air a run for its money.
Yeah, Imma call BS on that. Apple has a handful of product lines that share vertically integrated components that allows them the economies of scale to integrate great things like their glass trackpad in cheaper models like the air. That said, there are several premium laptops at the same price tags than Apple that are arguably a better choice than the Apple offerings, the aforementioned G14 among them, especially if one takes linux compatibility seriously.
The CPU in the 2025 G14 seems to give the M4 Air a run for its money, I wouldn't be so sure about a 5 year old one though unless you got a very high spec one. The G14 does have a much better GPU and display than the Air, but that's sorta expected at close to twice the price.
After 5y the 5900HS is still a compelling alternative to the M4.
If one would run a 2t cinebench vs 1t on the Apple silicon the 5900 would have competitive single core performance too. (Apple lacks SMT)
This is two nodes behind and with 2 cores less. If people stopped using geekbench for laptops and PCs, this stupid Apple narrative would go away. Apple makes great laptops but they aren't the best and are arguably worse because they lock you into Apple's commercial relationships with software providers. There's HW acceleration for Adobe software but none for D'Assault software or Siemens software. Apple is the machine for the dilletante, and because most content creators are dilletantes, the message that passes is Apple centric. If Apple and Apple users were to evaporate, the world would carry on as usual, if linux machines would disappear overnight it would be utter chaos.
After 5y the 5900HS is still a compelling alternative to the M4.
In multithreaded, yes, it gets close using 16 threads. Which of course is what matters if your application can make full use of all 16 threads, but that's uncommon sadly. I'd argue that even the 10 threads of the M4 at full load are an unrealistic workload. Most applications are not embarrassingly parallel.
Single threaded, it loses to the M1 which was available in the Macbook Air, a significantly cheaper laptop than the G14.
If one would run a 2t cinebench vs 1t on the Apple silicon the 5900 would have competitive single core performance too. (Apple lacks SMT)
It would be a completely useless benchmark. The entire reason single threaded performance is tested is for applications that run most or all of their workload in a single thread. Which unfortunately is still pretty common even today, and for many applications isn't really a problem that could feasibly be solved.
For applications that aren't embarrassingly parallel, but also aren't fully single threaded, the truth lies somewhere between the single threaded benchmark (in which the 5900HS isn't very good) and the multi threaded (in which the 5900HS IS very good).
If you're going to sing the 5900HS's praises, maybe mention the fact that in multithreaded Cinebench, it (barely, but still) beats out the M1 Max, which was a MONSTER of a CPU for its time, it was such an improvment over the core i9 in the previous 16" MBP that it wasn't even funny. Unlike the M4, it was also only available in a much more expensive laptop than the G14.
If you go current gen, the R9 270/8945HS in the G14 still loses to the M4 in single thread. And the M4 Air is 1000 euros cheaper than the G14 where I live. AMD wins in the multi core, but once you get to the M4 Pro you can have in a laptop that has a similar price (just a little bit more expensive) to the G14, Apple wins in multi core too. Also the M4 is getting on in age, you can now get the M5 in a Macbook Pro for a bit less than a G14. Sadly it'll be a few more months till we can get it in the Air.
TL;DR: Comparing same generation, Apple's cheapest CPU has a lower multi core Cinebench score than AMD's highest, but higher single core. Go up in price and Apple has higher multi core too. Cross-gen comparisons are pointless. This all falls apart if you prioritize GPU over CPU, in which case you should stay far away from Apple.
FYI, Ryzen 9 270 is last gen, anyways:
Here's a nice link to the passmark forum. You can clearly see a deranged Apple fanboy that has difficulty grasping anecdote is not the singular of data.
Back on topic:
The M4 air lets you run console and a bunch of daily tasks well enough, however, it really isn't a work machine. It's an iPad pro with a keyboard. Apple has troves of data on what the people who buy their HW do so they adapt fixed function for HW acceleration as needed. The single threaded benches are also wildly misleading as if you try to edit music on an Air you'll be pulling your hair out due to latency on the "best single threaded portable CPU" due to thermal constraints (and yes, I know RTINGS recommends Apple for music production, sadly, they don't really test latency propper, especially for music production). Run Izotope Ozone 10 with some oversampling and curse your life for going with Apple. Oh, and if you want to do anything remotely useful, get ready to shell out some extra money for RAM and storage that brings the price of the air up to par with the G14...
Apple laptops are Veblen goods, the battery life is great, when using popular software it works well (Adobe 🤮🤮🤢🤮🤮) but even Apple finds the M4 so underwhelming it had to compare it to the M1 instead of M3.
Given its age, the 5900HS has no place being as competitve with the M4 10core as it is, and yet, here we are.
The Ryzen 9 270 is what's currently in the G14 much like the M4 is last gen but it's what's currently in the Air.
Apple compares the M4 to the M1 because the M1 is so good most M1 users don't see a reason to upgrade yet unless they have the 8 GB model. I'm not even joking. People are still debating whether to upgrade from the M1 to the M5. Apple Silicon made their laptops so good there was no longer need to upgrade every 5 years like with Intel in the past.
I think you just have a chip on your shoulder. If you're looking for a work machine, why are we talking about the cheap base model CPU? You should be comparing to the M1 Pro. Not the Max, since that's more expensive, but the Pro is an apt comparison.
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I'm not going to buy anything from LG any more. My ongoing battle against my own LG TV's enshittification (forced ads and AI everywhere, getting worse every update) has soured my opinion on LG. They can go to hell.
Easy workaround, don't ever let your TV access the internet.
Well the problem is we only use the TV for streaming and my partner wants Netflix and other commercial stuff. Which means I would have to connect another internet device to the TV where the same problem happens again. Going exclusively Jellyfin or whatever is not a solution at this time
Yeah... I have older 4k Roku devices luckily, they don't have microphones and I can opt out of ads.
You can opt out of ads on a Roku? Last I checked (like 4 years ago) ads were anywhere in the OS.
A Chromecast is not full of ads, but are they all just Google TV now? Is Google TV full of ads? I haven't used one.
Could be an option to reset your TV, disconnect it from the Internet, and buy & use a Google TV device instead. The streaming devices seem to have far fewer ads and shit than TV manufacturers cram into their devices nowadays.
The hoops we have to jump through to minimise surveillance capitalism.. I see elsewhere in the thread you've had to use a PiHole to block most of the TVs traffic.
I agree, LG is a pretty awful brand all around but I really like the idea of new lighter materials used in consumer hardware. Moving away from plastics to metal frames has been nothing but a fashion mistake.
I've actually always liked the solid feel of Macbooks. There are lighter laptops out there, but few if any feel as solid.
Hard disagree, macbooks have some of the most unergonomic and awful frame design. The sharp corner alone are just so peak stupidity.
I think people fall for "heavy == quality" falacy way too often here especially since the aluminum frame is actually worse at protecting the internals.
I just like the rigidity. I hate bendy laptops.
Why would I need the internals protected? Like most laptops, none of mine move around a lot. If I worked out in the field, I'd get something actually tough, sure. But I don't need a Toughbook.
You need internals protected from basic shock. Macbooks are notoriously very poor regarding drops while you can play volleyball with a plastic thinkpad.
Just don't drop your laptop lmao, how hard can it be?
I've never dropped my Thinkpad even, and those are actually easier to accidentally trip over since they don't have Magsafe.
Also I've seen hundreds of dented Macbooks work completely fine. Same with plastic laptops like the Thinkpad and Elitebook except they'd usually have a hole or crack in the corner after the drop instead of a dent.
This is a common security fallacy as sure you might not drop your laptop like you're not crashing your car but once you hit something it's nice to have airbags right? People pay several thousand dollars to recover hard drives of dropped laptops and can you imagine being in such stressful position? So a bit of safety goes a long way.
Backups exist for all the important stuff and who even uses a spinny spinny crashy anymore? SSDs are incredibly fall resistant. Now Apple does make it difficult to recover data off a completely dead motherboard since in some models the storage is integrated, but it'd take a LOT of force to kill the motherboard. Not a drop from any usage height, it'd have to be out of a window on a fairly high floor.
I'm also incredibly privileged in that I know several people who repair these things professionally (usually liquid damage) so I can get these motherboards repaired for cheap too. Rest of the laptop doesn't matter much, you can always find a donor or 2 to rebuild. Lovely part of having fewer SKUs and more units shipped per SKU than most other manufacturers. I used to do this professionally and it was always easier with Macs because we were able to stock and catalog all the parts for all the models made in, at the time like previous 8 years. With non-Apple laptops, we only stocked parts for select super mainstream business models. Think Thinkpad T and X series only.
Really? I thought LG was known for making the least smart TVs. I bought one not too long ago and I haven't noticed a single smart feature.
I had to setup a custom pihole LG blacklist to keep it from displaying ads in the menu. And LG is well known for spying on their customers in the worst way possible
Rectally?
Seriously though, screen grabs are bullshit. Fuck those guys.
So no ports, a shitty battery and OS level spyware? Pass.
I get the appeal of a lightweight device but i personally like a little weight as long as it is heavy because it _b .... I just woke up and realized I fell asleep typing my comment. I literally bored myself to sleep.
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