Nah, I would love if the US was actually a thriving, just, compassionate, and educated nation that used their power for good in the world. That would be much better than a US collapse.
Same but i don't think that's compatible with the current design. I'm not a collapsvocate, btw.
the issue is americans at large don't want that. they don't vote for it and they tend to hate any candidate that supports those things.
Americans very much love the struggle bus they create for themselves. it's part of our cultural mythology. so much so that even those at the tippy top will love to tell you about how their life is a struggle of heroic overcoming of the difficult upbringing of only having mere millionaire parents.
Yeah and I'd love if the ingredients in my fridge became a fully cooked meal instantly
Unfortunately sometimes you need an intermediate step... May not be easy or pretty.
I wish it could be so, though.
Can't do that without revolution. The US Empire is itself a genocidal settler-colony, it must fundamentally be replaced. Working class orgs like PSL are the best path forward.
I'm not even focused on its origins because many things start for one reason and continue for another but the problem with the US is that it never fundamentally changed. Its methods changed, its culture changed, but the result is still fundamentally the same, just slower and more devious.
You could retain the territory and people but the system itself must fundamentally change, which as you stated can likely only happen through revolution, because the system certainly does not seem capable of overhauling itself.
Yep, but we should study its origins as they do have a factor on how we got here. Dialectical and historical materialism helps us see what needs to be done.
But then it wouldn't be 
. It would be something else. And would have to go the way of the dinosaur for that to happen.
I think the point is that OP (rightfully in my opinion) realizes that that is not possible without a collapse that results in a revolution.
Our entire government and wealthy are wrapped up in defending their pedophilia. Invading US cities and kidnapping people (and foreign leaders). I think if you're not praying for a collapse at this point you are still comfortable enough to believe the lie that this system just needs "fixing" instead of a complete replacement. There is comfort in believing that. I held onto that belief for a long long time. Even knowing history was against that belief in every similar case. But it would only be for my own comfort to believe that at this point.
That and the whole billions dying as a result of US collapse isn't great either.
Feel like I’m handcuffed to someone deliberately trying to drown themselves.
this is what republicans do every time they're in power, they're predatory disaster capitalists...create targeted disruption/general chaos to generate "volatility/liquidity" insiders can make a killing on.
then establishment dems come in and do the same thing, but they atleast want to keep up veneer of stability and (absolute minimal) progress.
this cycle has repeated itself many times now
Hmmm collapse of country with enough nukes to blow up planet several times. What could go wrong?
Happened to the USSR and we're still around, but even Yeltsin was more rational than the christofascists running the US so who knows?
Counterpoint: Yeltsin was drunk all the time, and ran out into the street naked, at least once. Trump has yet to do this.
Trump is a tee totaller, but we might get his demented ass stumbling into a river like Yeltsin.
Yah it will get you Tankiepoints™ out the wazoo to say you pray for the collapse of the USA but with every other country's economy tied to the US dollar, that outcome will be less than ideal when you want to go to your local market and buy food or medicine in almost every other country on Earth.
I get downvotes when I remind people of this fact like I'm making an argument for something. Talk to your local leaders about why they have invested so much in the US, not me.
Which is also a cute segue to remind people that all the loot and cash that Trump's people are scooting out the back door of our treasury? That's YOUR money also Mr and Mrs Europe, Canada, Mexico, etc.
Tankiepoints™
Can I redeem my Tankiepoints at a participating retailers whenever I want, or do they expire eventually?
In the Hearts Of Iron IV store you can trade them to have your custom fursona painted on the side of your SU-122.
Of the half billion or so actual joined-an-org-and-doing-work communists, the number who are fans of such a niche videogame category is basically a rounding error, and being a furry is even less common.
But I think I know every one of them.
I've read more than one economist say there's less than a year left of the dollar being the world reserve currency. Whatever timeframe I am not sure, but it's definitely not a forever thing.
now's the time to get really active in your immediate local community, figuring out a barter system & pooling resources so everyone will be okay during a collapse.
if you live near fairly conservative people, try starting it off with making a local directory of small businesses & trades, so people can support them. that's a great starting point for getting to know who has what skills in your local area.
then after a while, you can try expanding that to making a local directory of resources and/or tools, and frame it as a way of sticking it to bigger businesses. "why should everyone buy their own separate lawnmower when people can borrow mine & the few others already in people's garages? we win, walmart loses!"
The collapse of US hegemony is good for everyone
*everyone except for a few dozen people throughout the entire world.
Yeah but those few dozen people are more important than everyone else /s
Yeah it's kinda hard for the US to collapse. There's redundancy in the government. Even if the feds lose control there's the state government. Seems like economic collapse would have to happen for collapse of anything else
Dumbass accelerationists are probably responsible for this mess.
For fascists being fascists or for feckless liberals' complete inability to stop them?
Late-stage imperialism is what's responsible. The Empire is dying, but capitalism and imperialism aren't sustainable in the long run. "Accelerationists" are extremely fringe and have no real impact.
Middle class 14 year old leftists and self-hating third worldists try not to jerk off at the thought of proles in the west dying challenge (impossible)
Wanting the imperial hegemon to dissolve isn't exclusive to either of those groups, and would significantly advance the aims of socialists globally. The western labor aristocracy is gradually aligning more with the glonal south as the bribes of imperialism dry up and austerity is forced domestically, so the chance of socialist revolution is increasingly greater than 0. Quantitative buildup is resulting in qualitative leaps.
Within the empire itself, younger generations are increasingly in favor of communism. Not socdem "socialism," but communism. That doesn't mean they are all committed Marxists, but the trend is extraordinarily positive and aligns with the deterioration of the labor aristocracy. This genocidal settler-colonial empire is finally reaching levels of sharpened contradictions that are forcing the populace to get organized.
It's like that drop at the edge of the window sill. You know it's gonna eventually fall but for some reason it just keeps hanging on.
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