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Jeffrey Epstein and his vast network of elite figures routinely traded in myths that undermine climate progress. Experts say it’s not an accident

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[-] D_C@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

"we've got two basic options. Stop killing the world and become ecological whilst feeding everyone orrrr we kill people.
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Haha, just kidding. So, how are we going to kill all these poors in the 'overpopulated' areas?"

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

It’s like they haven’t read part 2 of Atlas Shrugged

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 day ago

They think AI is going to replace the people beneath them

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

The second they start building the cloud cities we just got to start murdering all of them I tell you. Got to do it. Can't let them build Elysium.

The fact that they think that kinda outs them as abject idiots.

[-] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 2 points 22 hours ago

There are certainly those kind of irrational AI boosters out there. Though I strongly suspect the AI bubble is much like the crypto bubble, in that the true believers are vastly outweighed by fakers who don't believe their own bullshit and are just hyping the product to make money.

When it comes to the billionaire caste, though, I think most of them know AI isn't, and probably won't, live up to the hype.

But the point isn't to actually replace people with AI.

The point is to replace free people with serfs.

We're already seeing AI being used as an excuse to replace American workers with foreign workers overseas. That is to say, American companies fire a bunch of well-paid American software engineers, "replace" them with AI tools, and then when the tools inevitably fail, hire much cheaper labor from India.

And the techbro support of Trump's immigration crackdown has the same goal. They don't want to bring foreign workers to the United States and pay them salaries sufficient to live in the United States - they want their workers trapped in countries with low wages and low cost of living.

Now expand that to, basically, every other working class sphere of employment. AI can't replace workers. But if enough businesses can be convinced to fire workers and try to replace them with AI, we will get mass unemployment, economic collapse, and political turmoil - and, as always in a collapse, the ultra-rich will get even richer, because the unemployed working class will be forced to sell whatever they have at fire sale prices, and the billionaire caste will be able to buy up land and houses and businesses cheap, and consolidate even more wealth in their caste.

And when the dust settles, the unemployed masses will be desperate to work at whatever wage and conditions the billionaire caste wants to set.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 day ago

I don't think it's crazy to think that a fair bit of work, like driving, weeding, harvesting vegetables, and the likes can be replaced by automation today when it couldn't a decade ago.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I mean yeah they’re management.

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

They did read it, why do you think Lonnie is working so hard on the AI and robots?

1000004080

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

AFAIK his robots still need humans to remotely pilot them.

And I’m not confident Mr. “Full Self Driving Next Year” can pull it off

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 5 points 1 day ago

It's the Mechanical Turk automaton all over again

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

Always indians.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 1 day ago

also funding "reduce your carbon footprint" advocacy or companies so they dont reduce thier emissions, plus funding the "eco-protestors that deface public property to get the public to turn on them as well.

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's not in the article, are you making shit up to suit your political agenda?

Especially the last one is wild - yeah, they sneakily funded the single most historically effective form of protest short of attempted murder (see Luigi bopping goombas) in order to *checks notes* reduce support for climate change activism.

In the Netherlands, the biggest climate movement spike was when activists repeatedly blocked a highway and defaced its surface. The biggest protests in 50 years happened after a year-long campaign of vandalism, defacement of public property, and fighting police.

I don't know if billionaires had a hand in making the 20th century climate movement anti-nuclear pacifists, but that was literally the best values they could have had to support the fossil fuel industry. Get well-meaning scientists to submit to public pressure allowing imperialism to continue its reign of terror without competition.

Go read "The Failure of Nonviolence" by Gelderloos.

"if the brain discards unused neurons, why [should] society keep their equivalent"

A shitty argument by shitty people. The appeal to nature would probably be less of a problem if we didn't abandon nature by creating society.

[-] SaneMartigan@aussie.zone 10 points 1 day ago

They're looking to burn the planet down and kill off the population.

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

Being rich should be classified as a mental illness

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago

Or a crime against humanity.

[-] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I fucking knew it

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