Vaping likely to cause lung and oral cancer, Australian researchers find in new review of evidence (www.theguardian.com)

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[-] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 month ago

It's so silly that people are rushing to defend vaping here. Just admit that inhaling shit into your lungs isn't good for you and that the rich people profiting off your addiction want to keep up the charade as long as possible. Just admit, like all people who smoke cigarettes do, that it's bad for you and that you'll continue doing it.

I drank diet sodas for years, but I avoided defending it even though the evidence was inconclusive. I know the corporate goons want it to be perceived as healthy, so I don't want to play into their plans regardless of how convenient it is for me. Our addictions aren't healthy, and we need to own up to that even if we aren't strong enough to resist them.

[-] CatalpaRed@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

Had a diet soda after work yesterday. Just sat down right now after getting home from work and am craving one intensely.

There is no way something so yummy and habit forming is consequence-free.

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Idk man, liking diet soda is kinda weird.

[-] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Right? There's nothing good about synthetic sweetener. Why not go with the "devil you know" (sugar) which actually tastes better? I don't get it

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Just admit, like all people who smoke cigarettes do, that it’s bad for you and that you’ll continue doing it.

I don't know why people can't just do this. I drink

sometimes like a fish

and I know it's not good for me and likely will take years off of my life. But I like it. So oh fucking well.

[-] Techlos@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

I'll always be thankful that vaping got me off tobacco, and eventually nicotine too. But there's an abyssal gulf between the self assembled, diy vape and self mixed liquid that vaping started at, and the white ox grade addiction pods that vaping has become.

There's absolutely no reason to have the default strength be 50mg/mL, unless optimising for addiction without quite hitting a poisonous dose.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's also dry herb vapes, which while not innocent by any means, are likely better than anything with ejuice

[-] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I assume cannabis is the dry herb in the dry herb vape and not tobacco. In which case, consumers don't typically hit that vape compulsively every 5 minutes and there's a vast difference in volume of inhaled vapor.

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[-] osanna@lemmy.vg 17 points 1 month ago

this just in: inhaling cancerous chemicals causes cancer. More at 10

[-] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I'ma be so annoyed if there are meaningful second hand vaping effects -_-

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

analysed reviews of evidence from animal studies,

I seriously doubt that, because the bases in e-juice were studied thoroughly in the 50's with no such evidence.
And nicotine has obviously also been studied thoroughly, and the nicotine is not considered a major carcinogen in cigarettes, it's mostly compounds created by the burning of the paper and tobacco that cause cancer that is the actual SMOKE in smoking, which vapes do not have, unless the vape is seriously overheated.

I bet that this study is flawed, if it truly shows indication of cancerous effects, I bet it's because they overheat the e-juice, which has the same effect as burning fat on a frying pan. And with the e-juice taste horribly.
Either that or they've used impure products, and not the pharmaceutical quality products that dominate the industry.
If you are a vaper, make sure the nicotine and base juice are both pharmaceutical quality.

However, the review included case reports from dentists who noticed oral cancer in people who had only vaped and who had never smoked.

This is partially based on self reporting, which is the least reliable form of study there is.
Also I've never heard such warnings from dentists?

Unfortunately with these kinds of studies, we have to consider they can either be honestly flawed, but worse than that the studies can be dishonest to attract funding.

[-] mrsnesbit@lemmus.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It is quite amusing to me the level of copium that I read in comments whenever negative health impacts of vaping are pointed out.

Have all the flavor additives that they add to these vape juices been studied on the impacts on the lungs since the 50s to support your “doubt”? Did the studies on PG’s effect on the lungs since the 50s include frequency of use and exposure to the lungs that is consistent with daily use vaping we see today?

You’re evaluating results of the study by assuming that the only thing that can cause oral and lung cancers are inhaling smoke. Which is incredibly flawed thinking.

It could be that perhaps…just maybe…that inhaling anything other than clean air on a consistent basis increases someone’s chances of developing cancer. Crazy thought, I know.

Sure it is likely better than smoking. But anyone that deludes themselves into thinking that their pina colada vape they inhale into their lungs multiple times an hour is healthy and can’t possibly cause any negative health issues is uhhh…not very bright.

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[-] MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

I bet it’s because they overheat the e-juice

I remember there being a study years ago where they even went so far as to heat it until the wicking material (cotton iirc) started to burn then claimed vapes contain the chemicals that were created by the combustion (if you let your vape go dry or you hold the button way too long it's disgusting, nobody would vape like that all the time). The cigarette industry has no morals and will fund anyone who will publish their dodgy "research".

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That was the formaldehyde study, although the study that found VG broke down into Dihydroxyacetone did the same thing. Their starting wattage was the max recommended for the coil they used, and that coil was a CE4 style cart.

[-] Kirp123@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Studies in the 50s also said that asbestos was a good material to insulate your house with.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Were those health studies?
You know the lung problem with asbestos is quite unique, and it may have been unknown back then. If buildings weren't for people, asbestos is very safe regarding fires, and an excellent material in many ways. But it was already in the 60's that we began to ban and remove that shit, exactly because it is harmful to your lungs.

The bases in vaping have been used for instance for asthma inhalers for many many decades and is STILL used for that, and the pharmaceutical industry is pretty heavily regulated. It is also used as stage fog, in fog machines that spew enormous amounts into rooms full of people, with AFAIK no research showing any health problems, for the operators or the musicians or actors that are exposed to it every day.

But for some reason, when it's an e-cig some people suddenly have a knee jerk reaction, and think whatever is inhaled in any way is unhealthy.
Your argument is basically whataboutism, and in that line you could ask yourself, what about the smell of making tea, surely that must be harmful too by your logic. All that tea vapor in the air that you inhale in closed rooms.

Actually it has been shown that people that vape to quit smoking, recover lung functionality faster than any other way of quitting smoking.
So anyone that quit smoking could benefit from using vapes even if they are nicotine free, for a few months.
Also when examined by a doctor, if you are vaping it registers as non smoker when measuring lung capacity.

[-] quips@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

Well they also have many other ingredients besides the bases that absolutely aren’t tested for inhalation safety. Can’t say one way or the other whether they do because the lack of regulations means no studies are requried.

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[-] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I vape and can tell you that degradation of the coil happens even without overheating the element or juice. Which means it's possible for these particles to go into the body.

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[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Gee who could have guessed that inhaling dubious chemicals causes lung problems.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

it's not that hard to quit smoking if you stop drinking

[-] FunStuffIsFun@eviltoast.org 2 points 1 month ago

Yesterday was 4 weeks without nicotine for me.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago

YES!!! I'm SO happy for you!!! That's awesome!

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[-] winkledinkle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Vaping came out when I was still smoking and even back then I knew it was bullshit. Especially with cigarette companies pushing it so hard.

[-] TrojanRoomCoffeePot@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I mean, no shit it will, but good on the Aussie government to fund the study so that it's all already proven. It's fucking impossible to debate some people without linking to studies like you're defending a Goddamned fucking doctoral thesis.

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Showing evidence doesn't even work generally. Psychology doesn't work that way sadly.

[-] TheFrirish@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 1 points 1 month ago

The tobacco lobby's dead body still twitching it seems.

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