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Previously on Lemmy:

Past Discussions:

Sorry for the delay for the weekly. Server's not that stable right now, maybe we should start the thread on Sundays instead.

I always like to switch things up once in a while because it's fun. So, let's get back to the brand discussion this week for the Google Pixel. We'll do a discussion on repairability next week. Again, ideas are always welcome here.

I've never used a Pixel, but people around here should know that I've been very critical of Google's product decisions over the years, and the Pixel is no exception. In my point of view, discontinuing the Nexus series, buying out the talents from the remains of HTC and starting an official "made by Google" phone is the equivalent of reddit buying out Alien Blue to make the official reddit app. I think it's the event that scared big Android manufacturers like Samsung enough to start making their own ecosystem away from Google, as they are concerned that Google may start locking software features to their own phones instead of improving Android overall (rightfully so, I might add).

It really makes no business sense at all to turn your manufacturing partners into your competitors, but then again, it's Google.

With that being said, the first years of the Pixels has been marred with growing pains. Whereas the Nexus line has always been barebones, no frills development devices, it seemed to me that the people who made Pixels don't even use Android and are insistent on turning Pixel into iPhones, removing the headphone jack on the Pixel 2 despite the antagonistic ad from the original Pixel, Pixel exclusive software features like Google camera that necessitating the need of rom mods, as well as the quality issues that seems to be inherited from the Nexus days just really soured me from considering Pixels, as I think it's against the spirit of openness that made Android great.

But it seems like in recent years, they finally figured out that a large percentage of people who bought Androids not because they can't afford iPhones, but because they like Android, and I see the introduction of the "a" series as progress. The recent Pixel ad campaign also made me think that they finally figuring it out: people want different things, trying to turn Android into worse versions of iPhones was not going to work, so they should be trying to make the best Android for Android users instead.

(It's also the reason I think all the previous reddit clones failed, but Lemmy will be the one that finally succeeds.)

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[-] algorithmae@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

I've had my 4a 5g for 2 years now and have no issues with it. Uninstalled some of the G stuff I don't need, and with Greenify it lasts two full days with moderate usage. Would probably be even better with a custom ROM, but I go the other way and keep it stock android 11 with updates turned off. Rock stable with no frustrating unexpected changes, I went like 180 days without needing a reboot

Has a headphone jack and a decent camera, which are must-haves for me. I'm probably going to be keeping it for another 2-4 years like I did my last phone (LG G5) until it starts falling apart or becoming unreliable

[-] decimeter@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I spent quite a while in the Nexus/Pixel line, mostly on the "a" series once they started with those, and I was always very happy with them. I didn't encounter any significant issues over the years, so I can't speak to any of the troubles others have had; if I hadn't decided to try a foldable when the Galaxy Fold 4 came out, I'd probably still be on the Pixel train.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
  • Stock Android missing so many apps because Google killed them for no reason

  • Google gets to shove gapps directly into your throat making you forget what android used to be

  • Partially responsible for ruining the android market and causing companies like HTC to drop out

  • Partially responsible for getting rid of android version names

  • Early models kinda sucked

Pretty much summed up all of my core issues already in your post lol.

Modern android sucks because of google

[-] Garocho@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

What apps do you miss in stock android?

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Compass, old file explorer, music app, dictionary, builtin PDF viewer, Mail,

I think dictionary and PDF might have been removed very early on or was not part of stock, but the rest definitely used to be there.

Many were replaced by a google equivalent like Google Music which is now dead, or Gmail which used to be alongside Mail.

[-] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Well, again, Google directly caused the Android fragmentation issues by de-GNUing Linux, so the bad parts of Android was because of Google from the beginning.

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[-] skymtf@pricefield.org 5 points 1 year ago

I have a pixel 6 and generally like it. Googles stock rom is where my issues with the pixel come up. Generally its not spookier than any other googled android phone. The rom looks good when the device is knew but from what I've seen online it tends to get slower after 2 years. This is nor an issue for me however since I moved over the graphineOS.

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[-] d3Xt3r@lemmy.nz 5 points 1 year ago

I've always been a Stock Android fanboy, so I loved the Pixel phones. However, for reasons, I got myself a Galaxy Fold 4 last year, which I fell in love with. I can't see myself going back to a regular phone now, and for me to get a Pixel Fold, Google would really have to improve Android's multitasking capabilities. On my Galaxy Fold for instance, I can have three tiled windows in a split-screen layout, or can have several floating windows of regular apps, which can be minimized into floating chatheads. With these floating windows, I can freely resize them, hide the header and even change their transparency levels. Which is great if you want to keep an eye out on some chat or Uber Eats or something whilst you are reading a book in full-screen. Having gotten used to these multitasking features, I can't see myself going back to stock Android, until these are implemented.

[-] knyuqlr@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I had Nexus and Pixel phones.and absolutely adored them through my Pixel 4a. Then one day, I was using my 4a, the screen turned off and never turned on again, ever. It just stopped working on its own suddenly, for no reason. Reached out to Google Support and had zero recourse because I had had it for a bit over a year. Now I'm never trusting Google devices again.

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[-] WillyWonksters@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Bootloader unlocked, while persevering access to hardware security features by 3rd party operating systems like GrapheneOS.

They also provide 5 years of security updates for new devices.

Nothing else competes.

[-] Mako_Bunny@geddit.social 5 points 1 year ago

The camera in the 7 Pro was unmatched but the battery life is just shit in my opinion. Everything else worked fine, not the most powerful device though, didn't run games very well.

[-] knotthatone@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

I absolutely loved the Nexus line, but I'm on my third Pixel and they've been mostly excellent aside from a couple of nitpicks. I had the 2XL, 4a5g & 6 Pro so far. I will likely get the Pixel 8 Pro after that's released. Aside from the name (why!?!?!!?), the 4a5g was just about perfect.

My 6 Pro has been mostly great, but a little sensitive to overheating in direct sunlight and it chews through battery on 5g. Hopefully the 8 improves on those two things. And has a flat screen, as is rumored.

[-] UESPA_Sputnik@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

I like the timely updates and I very much like the UI. Not just the Material You color scheme (which I initially thought was a useless gimmick but have come to really like) but the look in general. Everything is just so pleasantly designed. I know that people around here hate too much padding but I think that's what makes the Pixel UI look so good. On other phones I always have the feeling that the padding isn't right; for example, on many phones (especially Samsung) the text in the status bar isn't center-aligned vertically and it drives me nuts. Or the text is squeezed into the corners.

On top of that there are useful features like Call Screening or Live Transcribe. And the voice typing is phenomenal.

[-] eleanor@social.hamington.net 4 points 1 year ago

I've been using Android phones for a decade now. My Pixel 6 is the best experience I've had with Android in those 10 years. I've had an OG Moto X, a Galaxy S9, a Pixel 3a, and now this 6. (I also had a brief stint with an iPhone in 2016)

The 6 and 3a have been the only ones that I've had without a manufacturer skin or carrier bloatware and it's been pretty great. The Pixel 6 is the only phone I've had matches that iPhone I had in terms of polish and reliability.

[-] Zed@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

My OP3 was dying and I needed a new poo phone, I can't afford buying things whenever I want so that's extra incentive to hold on to my devices, so after 5 years of use (the OP3 was second hand) I finally got the opportunity to switch phones and I got the pixel 6a (second hand as well)

Honestly I love it, it's basically the same size and almost the same dimensions as my previous phone but with a bigger screen, the OS has some very cool and intuitive options here and there, the camera is better back and front, the battery is great for my use case, I appreciate having a new phone again that will still have decent software support.

And all of this for around 200€, the same price I got my OP3 5 years ago, I'm really glad I could find such a good phone for this price.

I used to mod a lot back in the day, installing custom roms, custom kernels, all kinds of apps, but that changed and I just use a DNS and ublock on Firefox, I'm not even planning to unlock the bootloader and root this one, I'm happy with stock, it has everything I need at this point in life.

[-] sma3in@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Love them!! I'm still on pixel 4a and been a fan since the nexus era and I have decided to make it my main flagship forever. unless something changed. the only company piquing my eye right now is the "nothing" company but not switching

[-] bandario@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

I would very much like to own one because of the form factor and the ironic fact that they're one of the few phones that you can still run a proper custom rom and de-google.

Unfortunately the specs and battery life are not even in the ballpark of what I find to be acceptable. Pixels are a giant compromise.

[-] Swarfega@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

The only Android phone I'll buy tbh.

I tried HTC and Samsung in the past and hated them. I started with the Nexus 5 and never looked back. I've had a few cheap Android phones through work and they have all been crap.

Not to say Pixles don't have flaws. They often have annoying bugs that Google seems to take their time fixing.

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

My recent upgrade path was Pixel 2 -> OnePlus 7 Pro -> Pixel 7. Previously I used Nexus phones as well.

All of Google's phones seem to have at least one glaring issue. In the case of the Pixel 2, it was the skimpy RAM and low max brightness.

With the Pixel 7, it's the crappy fingerprint scanner, poor GPU/CPU performance, and surprisingly, the UI. I used to favor Google phones specifically because they had clean UIs with no bullshit, but holy moly, Google went off the deep end with Android 13. The wasted space everywhere is absurd. You can't even read text in the quick settings because they have such enormous empty borders on all sides. They literally use marquee scrolling, like it's a 1990s GeoCities page. I had to change my screen DIP settings in developer options to make it tolerable.

The nav bar is stupidly large. Even the gesture bar is stupidly large, sitting permanently at the bottom of my screen while doing absolutely nothing.

The performance is noticeably worse than my last phone. I was not expecting a speed demon, but I was certainly expecting an upgrade over a 3-year-old phone. Gaming performance is bad, and made even worse by the fact that Google only allows 90fps on specific hard-coded games, with no way for the user to override it. Games that run smoothly at 90fps on my old OnePlus 7 Pro stutter at 60fps on the Pixel 7.

Aside from that, it's a great phone. Battery life is fine. Screen brightness is good. GPS and 5G performance is good. I can still recommend it as a phone for casual use — you can't beat the price for what you get. But it's definitely not a phone for power users.

My next phone will likely not be a Pixel. It's been a while, so I might give Samsung another shot next time. If I catch a good sale on an S23 Ultra I might even upgrade this year.

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[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I was SO happy with my OnePlus 5T but AT&T network changes forced my phone to be obsolete. Otherwise I'd still be rocking that phone. I currently have this ultra crappy Samsung Galaxy A32 that was given to me by AT&T as a consolation prize.

Now I'm torn between a Google Pixel or a newer OnePlus.

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[-] MrMusAddict@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've had the original Pixel, the Pixel 4a 5G, and the Pixel 7a.

The only reason I ditched my 4a 5G was because my cell service seemed to be degrading (which was odd, because it was 5g).

Now that I have the 7a, I can honestly say I'm disappointed in its battery life. My 4a 5G could last 36 hours on a charge, even 3 years into ownership. My 7a seems to get down to 15% consistently by the time I get to bed each day.

[-] Jz5678910@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago

I'm writing this on a Pixel 7 Pro

So my android journey started with the moto G4 plus when I decided I was tired of giving my iphones to my mom every time she broke hers.

I loved that device because it was really simple and bear bones. Stock android if you will, with just a few extra features that were really nice Quality of Life features. That's what set me on the path towards a pixel after a handful of different brands.

Pixel 4 XL was my first pixel. The big draw for me was the face unlock and the stock experience. At the time, the new spam blocking features from Google assistant were important to me as well. I switched to that after the essential phone brand was officially dead.

Absolutely loved it, so much so that I got my dad a 4a when it released. It was dead simple for him to learn at 60 coming from an iPhone 5. So much that when COVID happened and we switched to masks, I was petty enough to pick up the pixel 5 for the fingerprint scanner (which my dad now has).

I strayed for about a year. I picked up the Galaxy Fold 3 at launch and it was mostly nice. I had so many bad experiences with Samsung, but this was pleasant if not a bit bloated. But I missed the simplicity, I missed the themeing, I missed the Google features.

So around the 10 month mark, my fold inner screen popped off and after having it replaced I put it for sale and bought a Pixel 6 pro second hand. I was skeptical at first because of the bad reviews, but it was a fantastic device in the end. I gifted that to my girlfriend and switched her from iPhone and picked up the Pixel 7 pro.

I always come back to the simpler android, but the pixel flavor is just something special. I've never witnessed any of the issues that people suggest that they have in their reviews. It just flows so well in my experience. I'll be looking forward to trying out a pixel fold when they get to a 3rd generation or so.

I love the simplicity, I love the extra features that Google assistant packs in, most of them are now bundled into the apps as opposed to just being locked to a pixel phone. My favorite part is that they're affordable (Comparatively). I'm glad to see that in Android 14 the best of the Samsung features are being implemented.

[-] Crozekiel@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Lord, you've gone through more phones than covid has new strains. I'm still using the Galaxy s9 I got in 2018. It replaced the Pixel that I hated for being an iphone knock-off (up to including the poor longevity of the device...). I've heard the newer Pixels have gotten better, but the first couple generations really hurt and I'm not sure I could give them another chance. I'm scared to replace my current phone, actually, because it's the first smart phone since the Palm Pre (I loved that thing) that I didn't find myself hating within the first six months of ownership.

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[-] reveries@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Recently upgraded to a Pixel Fold from Microsoft Surface Duo 2. There is no way I am ever going back to a single screen phone

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[-] Smurfe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I pre-ordered the first Pixel and loved it. I then had the Pixel 2xl and 3xl and absolutely loved them. I didn't like what I saw with the 4 and 5 and went to Samsung. I tried the 6a and 7xl as both had terrible battery life and call reception issues. Staying with Samsung and I am done it looks like with Pixel . I love my Samsung S23 Ultra.

[-] Link69@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Great idea, meh execution

[-] got2best@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Curious what device are you using right now op?

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[-] FlashZordon@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I've owned various Pixels since the first one.

Pixel XL > Pixel 3XL > Pixel 6 Pro

One could say I've had 3 of the worst Pixels.

They would be right in a sense. But I've used each of these for about 2-3 years (The 6 Pro will be 2 soon).

Really like the user experience and the software but the hardware really starts to show their age after about a year and a half in. With slowdowns and stuttering

The 6 Pro is the only one I haven't had any problems with.

I love the cameras on all of them and I can only say good things about them. The unlimited storage of the Pixel 3 lasting only until recently was a bummer. But now I've been backing them up on my local server at home.

[-] Harbingerof@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Made the switch from a series of galaxies to the 6 pro. And boy do I regret it. It's given me nothing but problems. Most recently the backlight partially failed and low light settings cause it to flash or be completely unreadable at night. I'll be going back to Galaxy asap

[-] foof@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I've been happy with the Pixel 6 Pro, which is still going strong with good battery life and continuing software updates after almost two years. Much nicer UI than the Samsungs I have had. The only thing I don't like is that it's Google spying on my entire life.

[-] kratoz29@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I can't speak about the hardware because I have never had one, but I can about the software because I am a custom ROM user and I come from MIUI, I won't say MIUI sucks, although it does in some aspects when I first got my first AOSP based ROM I was amazed with how fast it was, but it only got better for me because of the introduction of Monet icons and Material You since A12, since that moment I barely ever got back to MIUI.

For me AOSP is a true beauty and works pretty well, although it can be lacking features (which A14 seems aiming to "fix") I enjoy using it a lot, and if I ever get a Google Pixel I would feel at home no doubt about it.

[-] eth0slash0@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Galaxy Nexus to Pixel 6a (current) user. I did not have a pixel 1 or 2, but have had the rest. That Nexus 5x hung on for a while, as it should, being one of the best phones of all time, helping me skip right into pixel 3.

Side note: Nexus 7 was the greatest tablet of all time.

Out of any android, I preferred the nexus (now pixel) for it's simplicity. It's the way android was meant to be. Every other OEM is just someone copying the smart kids homework and making up random bullshit to call it their own.

Custom ROMs are great though.

[-] Unfocused@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I had the original pixel XL then switch to samsung s21 and now im on a pixel 7 and I can say with out doubt the the pixel 7 is way more responsive and feels so much faster then any samsung phone I have ever used. Samsung puts a lot of spyware bloatware crap on there phones. if you hook a samsung up to adb and have a look at the list of apps that are spying on you its insane, all the apps listed in the settings on the phone are not all the apps installed. lots of hidden apps running in the background. Something that would piss me off was every update installed a bunch of apps i never wanted and had removed previously. I have recently installed grapheneos and its amazing and seem less, I could install it on my moms phone and it would not be a problem. works just like any other android phone except google play is locked in a cage and can only do what you allow it to. I have google play services installed but basically took all its permissions away, so that the camera app and the few other apps that look for it are not bothering me about it. google play services never connects to the internet on my phone.

I will never go back to a samsung phone, I love the stock android experience its simple and no fluff.

[-] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

3rd pixel, and each one has had persistent problems. Not ready for primetime. Currently have the 6P and with the heat issues it has just been OK.

They still have yet to make a fully fleshed out product.

[-] MrPloppy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Got a Pixel 6. Still loving the design, software and (reasonably) quick updates.

[-] jcrabapple@dmv.pub 3 points 1 year ago

I had every Nexus except for the 5, and every Pixel except for the 5. I've had really good luck with them all. Only problem I had was after about a year the wireless charging stopped working on my Pixel 4 XL. I've handed down almost every single phone to either my parents or my kids after at least a year of use and they continue to last a few more years. I can't recall one ever dying. I swear by them.

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