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submitted 1 year ago by Los@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org

Seventy-seven percent of middle-age Americans (35-54 years old) say they want to return to a time before society was “plugged in,” meaning a time before there was widespread internet and cell phone usage. As told by a new Harris Poll (via Fast Company), 63% of younger folks (18-34 years old) were also keen on returning to a pre-plugged-in world, despite that being a world they largely never had a chance to occupy.

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[-] ajbin@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

As a baby GenX-er smartphones, and always-on internet didn't come into my life until I was at university so I straddle both worlds, and I definitely would not go back. What I have done in recent years is revolt against the always-on side of modern tech. My phone makes not a peep of sound or vibration, it shows no notifications unless I look in the tray, all app badges are turned off. I can't tell you how much this has improved my life!

I even went so far to run my phone in black and white for 6 months as an experiment. That was a real interesting experience! I found it way easier to simply read and then put down my phone. When I finished my stint and turned colour back on I actually felt dizzy using the phone for a few days.

When you look at how Kbin/Lemmy has exploded in a just a few short days it's clear that modern tech can be amazing for humanity in terms of creating communities and bringing people together, but how we do it in terms of app designs, notifications, dark patterns and all the hullabaloo of is somehow anti-human and I think with waves hands all that has befallen us in the past couple of years we are suddenly waking up and trying to find new ways to be people with tech.

Let's hope the fediverse is a good step in that new direction.

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[-] jprjr@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

I think what people are really missing is being able to feel disconnected.

Like it used to be you'd send an email and you'd get a response tomorrow. Because people would go online occasionally.

Now if I'm not responding to a text within a few minutes people get upset. You'll see people answer the phone during a movie to say "hey I'm in a movie I'll call you back"

I'd like to go back to the world of being connected but having a slight delay is ok

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[-] MobBarley@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

anyone who says that forgets how bad tv sucked back then
I mean you'd have to at least bring back video stores or something

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[-] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not a lot of meat to the story, and it conflates tech itself with the social expectations that have sprung up because of it and the way it's used. "Instagram's pedophile network" (which seems only to be brought up for shock value) is not "cell service."

I'd hazard a guess that what respondents really want to return to is not being expected to be available to anyone at any time. And, crucially, they don't feel they can just ... do that.

[-] norb@lemmy.norbz.org 0 points 1 year ago

I’d hazard a guess that what respondents really want to return to not being expected to be available to anyone at any time. And, crucially, they don’t feel they can just … do that.

I think you hit the nail on the head here. People want to go back to a time when it wasn’t possible, but I think even more importantly where it wasn’t expected, that you are available 24/7/365.

The good thing is we can, as a society, start to not expect that availability.

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[-] density@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Or you just stood around waiting for a person for 2 hours with no way to learn if they were running late or blowing you off or dead.

[-] duraks@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

Mobile phones were widespread well before smartphones were invented.

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[-] lavendedreams@waveform.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Honestly, people committed to plans in a way they don’t now. I rarely had last minute cancellations when I was younger. Time might have been cut short or something, but people showed up. Changes of plans happened well in advance. Occasionally, I got stood up, but it was rare.

Now, I’d say probably 20-30% of the time, plans get changed last minute or more rarely, somebody bails.

Otherwise, yeah, having a mobile computer/phone in my pocket is indispensable and I’d never fully give it up.

[-] SkepticElliptic@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

My family is like this and my wife still does not understand it. We make plans, they are the plans until they change.

"Did you call your mom and see if we're still going?" Why would I do that? We made the plans. If we say we're all meeting at the grand canyon at noon on September 1st 2037 then we'll be there, those are the plans.

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[-] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

As someone who is Gen X or millennial depending upon the day and the years they pick, I don't want this. It's very easy to look back through rose-tinted glasses, but there are a lot of things, which many commenters already touched on, that were much harder or worse then. One that I didn't see early was maps and navigation. I had to lug around a giant atlas and plan out my routes to get somewhere. If there were a new street or development or something, I was SOL. Even in the early days, printing out MapQuest maps was far better, but still had its own issues. Aside from that, many other commenters mention many of the things that were decidedly worse or more inconvenient back then.

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[-] Repulsa@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Tbf I think I'd like it more if we had online shopping, cell phones, instant messaging etc but we didn't have social media as we know it today. Like we stuck with phpbb, Usenet and IRC and didn't move much more beyond that into Myspace and Facebook

[-] cykablyatbot@lemmy.fmhy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Who's "we", white man? I've never had a Facebutt or Twitter account. Or any of the various Facebook sites.

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