Yeah but have you sat in a UPS truck even it's parked? It just beeps non stop.
Hopefully, the mixture is 1% anger to 99% admiration. And that they are inspired to demand more for their labor as well.
Hmmm Dev bros, what we do now?
Grind leetcode!
Keep doing our jobs. We get paid well enough to afford the price increase in shipping things via UPS.
As a union electrician that's not $170k on the check. They still making like $95k a year but have benifits paid into the package. Medical, pension, 401k, etc.
TLDR article prob funded by big corporations wants general public to get triggered by unionized organizations.
“Business insider”…yea. With quotes from the CEO about how unfair things are.
Oh... Cool... We get it - So you're saying fuck the bosses, right?
I was in that blind post and it was dumb. Why complain that someone else is getting more money. It's not a competition. Everyone deserves a good life
What’s even more dumb is business insider making a story about it.
UPS drivers currently make an average of about $95,000 a year with an additional $50,000 in benefits. - That is news to me.
Headline should read "Corporate Magazine Attempts to Stoke Up Some Of That Old Anti-Labour Heat From The 80s."
As a Tech worker I think my job is more sophisticated, but much easier and less stressful than of an UPS driver, and I'm happy they can get a decent wage.
That's the point of a union -- people in skilled and sophisticated work can benefit from it too, but the folks whose jobs are extremely demanding but basically fungible really need a union.
Can we react more about trust fund managers and CxO salaries instead?
Interestingly, we sort of can't. Someone would have to write an article about it and no large, for-profit media company would publish it.
The port workers in Vancouver BC also just landed a good deal after striking for a little bit.
I can imagine that UPS drivers would have a lot of leverage since UPS would suffer massively if they couldn't deliver packages.
Westjet union also struck a new deal recently. I think it was something like 30% increase, captains making in neighbourhood of 300k.
I'm definitely very interested in joining a labour union for my next job. Tech workers should be looking to unionize.
I'm not sure tech workers could do UPS jobs or UPS workers could do tech jobs. Different types of people. I think some of the frustration could come from the fact that one requires advanced education. Ideally we're all paid 'enough' and then some are paid more/less depending on skill. Tech workers on average might be better, but it's still not enough in high COLAs to live in comfortable apartment and raise a family without stressing about money.
Why does this article exist? Who cares what tech workers think about someone else's pay rate?
BS
I've been in tech for 3 decades now...and I have nothing but applause for UPS drivers landing this package.
Why would tech workers have a problem with this? From my perspective, that's just one more industry I can consider hopping to if my employer doesn't start getting their shit together when it comes to compensation packages. The more choices available to tech workers, then less beholden they are to their own employers, so this is a win for tech workers also.
UPS drivers getting this deal is better for everyone, in every industry.
Points from the article:
could get $170,000 in pay and benefits in five years' time in a new contract.
~~"This is disappointing, how is possible that a driver makes much more than average Engineer in R&D?"~~ "This is disappointing, how is possible that an average Engineer in R&D makes much less than a driver?"
It is important to note that the $170,000 figure represents the entire value of the UPS package, including benefits and does not represent the base salary.
Despite some tech workers' resentment, many workers pointed out UPS drivers work under difficult conditions.
"I'd love for you to meet my dad who has delivered for UPS for over 35 years, hauls 100s of packages in the 105+ degree Texas heat, is literally Santa Claus in Dec, and does it for 9+ hours a day at 67 yo,"
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