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[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 129 points 10 months ago

Everyone knows it's genocide just most don't want to admit it.

Really any solution that doesn't end in genocide has to start with the US actually doing something other than enabling.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

US adminstrations (quite independently of whatever party mask they wear) have a long tradition of supporting "they're Nazis but they're our Nazis" governments (remember Pinochet or even Saddam when he was "our guy") and there really is no reason to expect they would change now.

You see this relativisation of Evil all around, by the way: notice how Germany's "Never again" turns out to really be "Jews are just like us" rather than "This should never be done again to anybody, anywhere" hence their sanctioning of Russia - who are targetting "people like us" - right next to their "unwavering support" of the Fascists targetting "those not like us" (or, as they call them over there, "human animals").

[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 117 points 10 months ago

Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 64 points 10 months ago

Being charged with genocide is one of the hazards of committing genocide.

[-] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 59 points 10 months ago

In its response to the petition, Israel accused South Africa of a "blood libel," which is "without legal merit and constitutes a base exploitation and contempt of court."

blood libel

noun

  • The false accusation that Jews murder non-Jewish children to use their blood for their religious rituals and holidays.
  • Any false or purportedly false accusation of murder of a non-Jew by a Jewish person or organization.
  • Any false or purportedly false accusation of guilt, especially of guilt in mass murder or homicide.

That third point is such a cop out.

[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago

This just in: The International Court of Justice is antisemitic!!1!111!!

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"State officials fear ICJ could charge Hitler with Genocide in Europe"

[-] butt_mountain_69420@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago
nothing will happen
[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Well, good.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Bibi be like "Okay, but how far above the law, Joe?"

[-] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 1 points 10 months ago

Top tier edit lol

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space -3 points 10 months ago

Israel can just invade the Netherlands and liberate its defendants, leaving no other survivors. The US (which has a Hague Invasion Act covering any of its own citizens in the event of such a trial) would provide logistical support, either openly or tacitly, and the IDF could use German air bases for staging.

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 9 points 10 months ago

The Netherlands would invoke article 5 of NATO in that case. I don't think such an action would end well at all.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Either the USA or Germany would refuse, effectively ending NATO as a deterrent to Russian aggression. Germany taking up arms against Israel in any circumstances is as close to an absolute impossibility as you get in the real world.

[-] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 2 points 10 months ago

It would indeed cause a rift between NATO. Which is why it's unlikely that anyone would support an Israeli invasion of the Hague.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

....who was in Flatliners with KEVIN BACON!

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

If there's anything we've learned the last few months it's that international law is about making it all up as you go.

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