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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by ShadowRebel@monero.town to c/monero@monero.town

Using Monero on a device with a spyware operating system defeats the point. Let's learn the basics of rejecting Google's surveillance and some different alternative Android operating systems: https://video.simplifiedprivacy.com/what-is-a-degoogled-phone/

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[-] WreckingBANG@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

GrapheneOS <3

[-] max@nano.garden 9 points 1 year ago

My new phone runs GrapheneOS and I love it.

One recommendation that I would give people is that it does not need to be an all-or-nothing jump into the abyss. It can be a bit disheartening when you try to get rid of all the privacy-invasive things in your life and you get cut off from your family and friends.

After some failed attempts, the strategy that I have found more successful is that I have new phone that I installed GrapheneOS into, and I keep the older phone with whatsapp. The older phone is in Airplane mode connected to WiFi at my home. It is effectively a landline. I can still use it once or twice a day to check on my family through WhatsApp without having to broadcast my location all day to Meta. This way I don't need to install any sandboxed Google Play services into my new phone. The old phone is the sandboxed Google Play. I also use the old phone for verifications, 2FA, and any other things that I don't want to contaminate my new phone with.

Over time I am finding that my GrapheneOS is perfectly functional. The main difficulty is the chats services that are used by my family, friends, and work-related "group chats". I have convinced some people to join my XMPP server, including my mom (wuhuu), but it is an uphill battle. That's why the other phone is still essential for me.

[-] VolunTerry@monero.town 4 points 1 year ago

Right on! Spread the word.

I've been encouraging everyone I know to de-google and eliminate or minimize reliance on other unsavory big tech players as much as possible. It's an uphill battle, but I've made steady progress with most of them through persistence and assistance with suggestions and support.

And still learning a lot and trying to form better habits myself as well.

The more knowledge and resources available to help with that message the better.

[-] ShadowRebel@monero.town 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for your time, yes we are creating a video platform independent of youtube front ends. Odysee asks for ID on sign-up so that's out too

[-] VolunTerry@monero.town 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Excellent to hear you are creating a new video platform without reliance on google/youtube. I've been trying to switch to odysee and others but still fall back ocassionally on NewPipe and Invidious and other services that rely on youtube when I can't find what I'm after elsewhere.

I also only use Odysee as a viewer not a content creator so did not realize ID was required on signup.

Will this new video platform you are working on be decentralized? I understand LBRY got targeted pretty hard in the larger crypto crackdowns and other video streaming alternatives have faced challenges and pressures in the market, legally and otherwise.

I'd hate to see another great centralized alternative get built up and gain traction and user adoption only to be torn down later on.

[-] ShadowRebel@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago

Hey thanks for the reply. So we were using Flux and Peertube together at first but it was too slow. Now it's on Bunny CDN as they respect GDPR and we registered as EU. If we get big enough, we'll rent the servers for the CDN ourselves. The issue with Peertube by itself is that the other people sharing it could be using cloudflare, AWS, ect. then what is the point... For example Techlore uses AWS for his peertube. And filecoin / IPFS is too slow right now for delivery, as the file hosts are not rewarded by bandwidth.

[-] k4r4b3y@karapara.net 1 points 1 year ago

Will this new video platform you are working on be decentralized?

We need to go back to torrents so bad.. Torrenting had solved the question of sharing video files some time ago.

Bonus points for i2p + torrenting. Qbittorrent v4.6rc has i2p integration baked in.

[-] Compactor9679@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago
[-] Wave@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago

Also:

murena.com /e/OS devices

fairphone.com /e/OS

pine64.org Pinephone Linux

puri.sm Purism Linux

[-] LosTim@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago

I have Pixel 6 I bought directly from Google. Does that count as OEM unlocked? Thinking about switching.

[-] ShadowRebel@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago

Yes it should be OEM unlocked. In theory sandboxed google play on graphene should not be able to access it. But if you use real cell service with a SIM card, then the IMEI number (by default) can be seen by the carrier.

[-] LosTim@monero.town 1 points 1 year ago

Awesome thanks.

[-] original_ish_name@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago
[-] azalty@jlai.lu -1 points 11 months ago

Sadly GrapheneOS not having NFC pay options like Google Pay or Apple Pay is a big turn off for me :(

[-] ShadowRebel@monero.town 2 points 10 months ago

You can add google push in a sandbox and get NFC

[-] azalty@jlai.lu 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Is this true? I never saw anyone saying it was possible. I don’t run GrapheneOS yet but I’ll give it a try.

What is the google push app?

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/475-wallet-google-pay

this post was submitted on 11 Aug 2023
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