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[-] ShadowCat@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago
[-] neshura@bookwormstory.social 11 points 9 months ago

Sounds more and more like she did an accidental breach that was so bad nobody at the table could pretend it didn't happen.

[-] ShadowCat@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

That's what I'm thinking it is, they can't just ignore it as they need to show that they have 0 tolerance for breaching their contract, but they don't actually want to terminate her

[-] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 11 points 9 months ago

Well, that's just... sad. Was it really so bad she had to be terminated? Like, Rushia-levels?

[-] neshura@bookwormstory.social 4 points 9 months ago

I'm afraid with NDA enforcement it does not matter how bad it was. Cover set a precedent for how they handle NDA breaches with (presumably) Rushia and now they will have to give that same treatment to any other talent found to have breached NDA in similar manners.

Meaning, for example, that if Cover set the precedent that one NDA breach gets you a 2 week suspension with a 2nd NDA breach being a termination any talent found to have breached NDA twice will need to be terminated. If Cover does not do that they would open themselves up as a target for a harassment/discrimination lawsuit.

So whatever metric they set with Rushia will now have to be used to evaluate the breaches of all talents and in turn will also dictate the punishment. If the severity of the NDA breach was not a factor in Rushias termination then it cannot ever be used to lessen the punishment in any case of NDA breach after. If the reasoning for Rushias termination was "talent breached NDA x times" then any talent breaching NDA x times will have to be terminated or Rushia could sue for discriminatory treatment.

So yeah it could simply be that Cover tied their own hands when they rushed to cut out the festering tumor that was the Rushia drama back then.

[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

So a company can’t change their policies as time goes on? They’ll be forced to terminate every contract that breaches NDA because of what happened with Rushia? I get that it’s a serious offense, but the consequences are very serious too. On the talent, the fans and the company as well. Doesn’t really seem worth it if they genuinely think it was a honest mistake.

[-] neshura@bookwormstory.social 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

When it comes to contracts (which NDA's are a type of) that's exactly how it works. If they want to change the consequences of breaking a contract they'll need to have the talents sign a new one and then void the previous one.

[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Hope they do that sooner or later then, this outcome is not favorable for any of the parties involved.

[-] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 2 points 9 months ago

I don't think it's fair to compare what Mel did to what Rushia did as if it's the same thing. Rushia knowingly spread company secrets and also false information to gossip youtubers and had loads of other drama surrounding her at that time. This was mentioned in Rushia's termination statement. Much more detailed and there was more to her termination than just a simple NDA breach, unlike Mel's.

I know breaking NDA should have consequences, but I find it odd that Mel's punishment here (which seems like an honest mistake, considering how amicable it seems) is the same as Rushia's, because Rushia's case was very different.

Cover easily could've made the case for a suspension.

And if we're talking precedents, you could go back to Coco and Haachama's suspension during the Taiwan incident, where the given reason was that those analytics were company secrets. Yet no termination.

[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Did Rushia actually spread false information though? Wasn’t she terminated because she basically gave Korekore a bunch of DMs with management to “prove” she wasn’t actually engaged?

[-] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 2 points 9 months ago

I don't know if she actually did, but that was in the termination statement

[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

You’re right, I forgot about that. Maybe we don’t really know the end of that story after all.

[-] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Cover did say, "...Yozora Mel has been engaging in acts that violated her contract by leaking information to third parties that she acquired from the company.". So yeah, it's at Rushia-levels.

[-] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

By Rushia levels I mean malicously and knowingly leaking stuff to gossip youtubers, like actually harmful stuff. The english translation also left out this for some reason https://twitter.com/melange82/status/1747164040907141603

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

A-Chan, Nodoka, and Yagoo all gave her a goodbye tweet indicating this was not malicious activity. This is different from Rushia, as A-Chan and Yagoo did not do this. They also allowed Mel to publish a final message.

[-] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 2 points 9 months ago

Exactly, that's why I find it odd it gets treated the same way by Cover.

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm guessing it was more level-headed mistakes

Like she didn't know for some reason but it was still egregious enough it couldn't be ignored. In Rushia's case she made mistakes but then kept going even

So in Rushia's case they couldn't even afford to give her any air time.

[-] Syrc@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Oh God. Almost 6 years… just gone like that.

I was never really a fan but whenever I saw something she was in I found her genuinely funny and always thought she was one of the most underrated members. Sad to see it end like this, wish her luck in future behaviors.

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

I can't say I watched much of her, but I know she had a lot of really big fans, both back when I visited Reddit and some of the hololive members even. I hope everyone is doing well, Mel especially.

[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

What? What happened??

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