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[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago

Thank you for not calling us LatinX, I've yet to meet a Latino who doesn't hate that.

[-] SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 36 points 1 year ago

I’ve never understood LatinX. Is it supposed to be a gender neural Latino/Latina? I’m only a Spanish beginner but I’m fairly sure Latino can be masculine and gender neutral.

[-] tuto193@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"LatinX" was indeed the first attempt at a gender neutral description. "Latino" is still considered by many native speakers to be "neutral", but the most feasible solution I've seen popping up is the "latine" (as in "estudiante", "vigilante", etc). Since it uses an explicitly non-gendered suffix, it is more correctly inclusive than the "latino". It will take a while though, und until it is really widely adopted.

[-] DudePluto@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago

"Latino" is still considered by many native speakers to be "neutral"

So like, is there any sizeable Latin community actually calling for a gender neutral term or is this just a middle-class white people thing? Because as a white person I've never seen anyone push for this other than white people and it just seems like a white savior/ daddy knows best thing. But my experience is just my experience

[-] j4p@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

There are some people who identify as Latinx. Pew puts it at 2-3% of Latin Americans, usually those who are non-binary.

I think the reason that it has the astroturfed white middle class vibe is that it’s really been pushed by corporate culture for whatever reason, who use it as catch all for all Latin Americans which clearly doesn’t line up with how the majority self-identify.

[-] SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

My experience is also your experience.

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[-] SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

I swear I replied to this and then both my reply and your comment disappeared 🤷🏼‍♀️

Thank you for the explanation. Is “le” as an indirect object pronoun the same kind of gender neutral example? I’m really struggling with that atm. Every noun is going to be gendered except him and her?! I suck at languages.

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[-] j4p@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

It was first seen in online queer activist circles around 2004. You can read a little about it here. Latino is traditionally masc/neutral but English style guides also said the same about “he” when referring to someone of unknown or unspecified gender for a long time, which has largely fallen out of use for singular “they” now.

Personally, I don’t use Latinx in writing to refer to all Latinos/Latinas as polling has shown only 2-3% of people readily identify with it. But I do think you absolutely should use it if that’s how someone personally identifies.

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Am I the only one who reads LatinX as rhyming with larynx?

[-] elscallr@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I read it as a Latino fetish porn site.

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[-] elscallr@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I'm not Latino, but I feel like that would annoy me. Latin@ as well. The language is gendered, trying to eliminate that is absurd.

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[-] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

It's coming around though. My gf watches a garbage amount of influencer bullshit, mostly mainstream streamers and such, and I've heard it quite a number of times.

[-] jscummy@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

How many of them are actually Latino though? It seems like a term created and made popular by white liberals

[-] MonkCanatella@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Lol all of them. We in Mexico. You’d probably be surprised that lgbtq people exist here on huge and proud numbers. Or would you also just assume they’re white liberals cosplaying?

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[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago

Gotta be a troll.

[-] pigup@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

I'm here to say something stupid as well. Happy dumbassing everyone!

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I haven't seen a mouthbreathing comment section like this since I left reddit. This is incredible.

[-] SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

So far it isn’t as bad as I feared. It’s very early days though! I’m really keen to create a community where we can discuss any topic including contentious ones respectfully, rather than just avoiding posting anything that could bring out the trolls. I’m hoping the one-warning-then-you’re-banned rule will be sufficient to keep the worst at bay. Please report comments that break the rules if you see them to help keep this community an enjoyable place to be!

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[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

irish american

3/78ths irish. The fries you get at McDonalds are more irish than them

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[-] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 year ago

The colonizer is strong in this one.

[-] SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 19 points 1 year ago

Hush now, she just loves really hard.

[-] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

I just know she wrote this while sipping a Starbucks and wearing big sunglasses while indoors.

[-] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Lol latinos, where the original colonizers g. Anglo-Saxon's only made it amore profitable venture.

Btw Latinos made it profitable but that was when we still where speaking Latin

[-] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

People don't understand that if you make shit up you just get laughed at

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[-] TopShelfVanilla@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Leave it to a white person to think they just get to use words however they want regardless of their actual definitions. SMH

[-] maudefi@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

OP isn't ignorant because they're white, they're ignorant because of the impact of their social economic class on their education, life experience, and world view.

Your comment opening with:

"Leave it to a white person to..." Is blatant racism.

[-] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Thats a good explanation. I'm saving that for future use. It seems easier to empathise with these people when you understand that they're a product of their environment and as much victims of the system as anybody else.

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[-] fr_mg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

If you know how to dance "salsa", "merengue" and "bolero" could be good llover...and apply for "latina".

[-] teft@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago

Could be good rain?

Llover is "to rain" in spanish.

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