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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by misc@lemmy.sdf.org to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

I downloaded a certain epub from Anna's archive but as i have never read it before and i don't know if it is a bad/incomplete copy or the real thing . I don't think I'm allowed to say which book it is but do feel free to correct me and i'll edit it in . So how do you solve this issue ? Like if it was a movie or tv episode i can check the length and can tell if it was cut . Do i have to download multiple copies ? even then how would i compare ? Anna's archive is showing me so many results on the same book . If anyone wanna help me out by sending me the links to a copy they are sure is full/real thing as they have read it before do feel free to dm or reach out on this thread if that's not against the rule .

Just to let everyone know which book i'm talkin about i'll drop a hint - It has a show in which a pretty beloved celebrity starred who is also a huge fan of the series and quit due to showrunners incompetence . It also has a pretty succesful game series and the book i'm trying to read is the first one of the series which consists of many shorts stories if i'm not mistaken . If this is also against the rules do let me know and i'll remove it .

Edit : typos and maybe wrong sub or c or whatever and maybe might have broken a few rules even tho i have tried hard to not breake any .

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[-] can@sh.itjust.works 30 points 6 months ago

That reminds me, many years ago I was reading Stephen King's It from an epub I found online and when I reached that scene I stopped reading and went online just to make sure I wasn't reading some long con prank someone edited in.

[-] melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 months ago
[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 5 points 6 months ago

I haven't read it but I'm curious... can you say what that scene is about without spoiling too much?

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It doesn't really spoil much of the plot tbh and it's still a great book but going from memory:

the sceneWhy is this so hard to put into words. Have you seen the movies or even the trailer? You know how It flashes between when they were young and later when they return back to the town? This scene is late in the book and takes place when they're young. The boys in the group all take turns having (consensual) sex with the girl

the rationale?it represents them maturing into adults or the bond or something that makes them no longer vulnerable to It? Like I said it's been a while but on much later I remember it frequently being referenced as a gangbang and someone would always correct sharing it's a train 🤷‍♂️

I swear it's otherwise a fantastic book.

[-] ponchow8NC@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 6 months ago

Jesus Christ

[-] misc@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 months ago

The fuck ? Glad i only watched the movies .

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago

Compare it with a known good copy.

But keep in mind that books often have multiple printings with various changes in each run, so even buying multiple official ones might not be the same.

[-] misc@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 months ago

Soo how/where do i get a good known copy and how can i comparedo i have to read both of em ? I don't think page number checking of epub is accurate .

[-] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago
[-] misc@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 6 months ago

Not currently accesible . Why would i pirate if i have acess to a library ?

[-] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Format options.

I've pirated ebooks of books I own physically. The exact same series you described.

[-] misc@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 6 months ago

Then can you send me the links ?

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

You could see if Broward County still let's everyone get a card and try with the Libby app.

[-] misc@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 months ago
[-] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Interesting. Maybe it's geolocked? Even though I'm not in the US. Do you have a VPN?

[-] ShadowCat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

not worth it, you have to wait for ages to get the book you want. (although at that point, you may as well dedrm the book and keep it. no need to pirate)

[-] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago

Do you have a library to possibly check it against?

[-] revelrous@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

got an isbn for it? Should be on the copyright page.

Edit: 10 or 13 digit number that (should) be unique to that publication. Paste it into your search engine of choice and you be able to find either a commercial or catalog entry for it which would give you some cataloging info for it such as file size or pagination to compare. Also I think that series is pretty popular and would be available as an ebook from you local library (if you are US) getting the card is really easy. Would recommend libraries 10/10. Libby charges libraries too much to use, but it's totally free for the patron and super convenient to use.

[-] prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 months ago

Ultimately, if you don't have a legal copy to compare it to, this is just a risk you take when pirating.

Some sources are more trustworthy than others. There probably aren't that many fake ebooks out there, but it's always possible I guess.

[-] Elieas@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago

You can't know but I really don't think this is a problem like you think it is. I can't think of what the benefit of doing this is. That said, yes an additional copy from an independent source would help. I like to listen to the audiobook while reading the text so it hits two senses. You could try that. Also, you can download from sources where people can and do give feedback.

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

I remember I downloaded the FFG Rogue Trader in 2008, and it was just Twilight with the troll face watermarked on each page. That was a long road trip.

[-] ShadowCat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 months ago

yep, especially if you download from trusted sources on the megathread or fmhy.

[-] LucidBoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago

Join MAM and you won't have to worry.

[-] misc@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 months ago

Whats MAM i can't find anything by searchin it up.

[-] LucidBoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 months ago
[-] Codename_goose@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

If you are getting a copy of the book and they say it’s from the hardback first edition or at least the hardback then you have a decent chance to find online resources that will tell you how many pages that particular edition had. If it’s a straight up epub from another source and not scans, then you could use some software to do a word comparison and see what the changes are/were between copies. Thankfully if it’s the book or series I think it is there were no abridged (shortening the book by removing parts that don’t contribute to the story) copies made that I’m aware of.

[-] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

Download multiple copies from multiple sources and compare them to see if it the same

[-] misc@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 months ago

Yes but page number comparison doesn't work well with epub's does it ? Is there any other way to compare ?

[-] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

I haven't tested this but Calibre has a plugin that will give you the word count of an epub, so I'd assume if you got a few copies and the word counts were pretty much the same it should be a fairly safe bet. There might be some variation for dedications, forewords etc. though depending on the version.

[-] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If the book have volumes and chapters you can compare that if not take a peak at the very end of the book and see if it end with the same word (less accurate and might accidentally spoil yourself)

[-] Dendr0@fedia.io 1 points 6 months ago

Multiple copies from multiple sources, strip down to just text, run a comparison. Won't tell you if you have a "perfect" copy, only whether or not what you have matches what is published. Remember that even when purchasing, books often have typos and minor errors.

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