Monero tips on Nostr?! Live now (rebelnet.me)

submitted 5 months ago by SummerBreeze@monero.town to c/monero@monero.town

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Let’s face it, our way of life is under attack. The exchanges delist us. Dubai bans us. EU restricts. Others countries we wonder. Nostr Bitcoin Maxis try to haze us. Ethereum VC funded devs treat us like pariahs. Even if you want to act tough and curse me out, you know it’s true that we live in some level of fear.

a) To make Monero real world money, you need adoption from everyday people. b) Everyday people don’t care about learning new tech, they learn it from influencers. c) To win over influencers, we need to appeal to what they care about, which is not privacy. They care about censorship, being deplatformed, and being demonetized.

Russell Brand demonetized. Glenn Beck pulled from Apple podcasts. America’s front line doctors banned from how many platforms? These are just some well-known examples, but I know dozens of mid-level political guys rug pulled by Big Tech. If we shift the conversation away from Monero is darknet markets, and turn it to undeniably monetized free speech: This is a winning battle.

But there’s a lot of choices with censorship resistance. Nostr, Session, Ethereum push channels, Farcaster, Lens, Arweave, IPFS, SimpleX, and the list goes on. The problem with “encryption as identity” is people do not agree on what coins or keys are legitimate. And this fighting and fragmentation kills adoption.

Here’s how we solve it: Simplified Privacy w/ DegenRocket has created a cross-key cryptographically agnostic protocol. This means ANYONE can cross-communicate. Our demo example has Nostr and Ethereum talking to each other… with Monero tips.

This reduces the number of clients and apps people have to download. When you SIGN you’re sending XMR, you first publicly telegraph you’re doing so with Nostr or Eth. This separates your SOCIAL identity (Nostr/Eth), from your FINANCIAL identity (XMR) in the eyes of Chainalysis AI.

Here’s the plan:

Step 1. You. It takes only 2 minutes to generate a random keypair and see how it works. Post your stuff, have fun. If you are “too busy”, then that’s the response influencers are going to have to making a Monero wallet. You can not control politicians. All you can control is your own actions.

Step 2. Me. I pledge to reach out to 356 influencers over the next year, and pitch them on the undeniable value of ownership and self-custody of their communication and revenue stream, as opposed to being a slave of Big Tech. That if they adopt an interoperability protocol, you get the ears of ALL these keys, starting with the adoption from you.

Step 3. Us. When they come on the protocol regardless of Nostr or Eth keys, we hit them with $0 zap Monero emojis. Nothing motivates someone to generate a wallet, like being able to count how much they are missing out.

Monero is true free speech. It’s about time we turned up the volume.

Here’s the info: https://rebelnet.me/news/0xe037eaa0a7d252c9a9

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[-] prancing389@monero.town 2 points 5 months ago

I have Monero that I will be looking to spend on essential materials for survival. Today, that is not possible. The only things I can purchase with Monero are things that I don't need for survival. If we can't make that happen, all the tech in the world isn't going to improve the utility for Monero. Catering to a fringe techie community will not get us there. I suggest that we create a task force and fund it through a CCS if need be in order to promote Monero. Outreach to businesses that will change their minds and begin accepting Monero for everything is essential, but none of the XMR donations seem to go toward that. I haven't been around that long and am sure there's things going on that I am unaware of, but the high visibility influencers I've seen don't seem to be emphasizing this angle. We should be bringing this up front and center on Matrix rooms, Simplex, Session, Bastyon, and Monero.town more regularly and there should be people getting paid some amount of Monero to carry ideas discussed to people outside the Monero community.

[-] SummerBreeze@monero.town 3 points 5 months ago

A CSS proposal isn’t going to get your landlord to accept XMR, that comes from you and culture. And depending on what country you live in, Coincards, Cake wallet, bitrefill (not xmr), ect. Do let you buy some basic items or food.

The thing is, my proposal doesn’t cost CSS money. I’m asking you to have fun on a social network. I'm not catering to the "fringe techie community", if anything this is easier to understand than any of the other networks, because it works in a web browser

[-] Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

this agnostic protocol. are you talking about rebelnet? or nostr? sorry, dumb question, i havent been keeping up so much lately

Russell Brand demonetized. Glenn Beck pulled from Apple podcasts. America’s front line doctors banned from how many platforms? These are just some well-known examples, but I know dozens of mid-level political guys rug pulled by Big Tech. If we shift the conversation away from Monero is darknet markets, and turn it to undeniably monetized free speech: This is a winning battle.

this. this right here. this is how we create popularity. these figures that get deplatformed, we immediately need to collectively tell them about decentralized tech and monero, "here is how you can take truly safe donations and never get deplatformed again".

[-] SummerBreeze@monero.town 2 points 5 months ago

RebelNet is an agnostic protocol that allows for many other protocols to cross communicate. So one of those is Nostr, which should be fairly well known among Monero users. Here's a video explaining: https://rebelnet.me/news/0xad937afc3901f9e4c6

[-] Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago

thanks

[-] mister_monster@monero.town 1 points 5 months ago

They're welcome to use these tools.

[-] Scolding0513@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

gotta know it exists first! awareness is key.

[-] SummerBreeze@monero.town 1 points 5 months ago

agreed, this is the battle. I'm saying, it helps to have the people that already know and use Monero on-board

[-] SummerBreeze@monero.town 3 points 5 months ago

Yes of course they can use all of these different tools, but having too many tools kills the network effect. I was telling you about arweave before, did you know Lens posts to Layer 3 arweave, so it can scale? Lens has DNS & does pictures over Nostr. Will Nostr folks find out? No, no network effect.

RebelNet uses Nostr, but Nostr by itself is hard for new users. When you create a new keypair on your local device, you are meaningless with no discovery. In order to be heard, people follow mass amounts of other people they dislike, which ruins their feed and kills the fun. While on the RebelNet, all voices are heard based on merit, and you can build your Nostr following which you then own off-platform.

Nostr clients don’t differentiate between the same post being reposted by a different user. This forces you to reread the same posts, creating resentment against the content creator. This resentment is why after you go viral, your next few posts get a dead response as people automatically skip rereading your stuff.

In contrast, the RebelNet can link all of these. Interoperability is the path to adoption. In the same sense that converting cryptocurrencies from one to another makes them more widely used. This is bigger than a “website”, it’s the layer 0 protocol.

[-] mister_monster@monero.town 1 points 5 months ago

Well I'm just commenting on the premise that we should attempt to get big name people. I oppose the idea of chasing people, I'm partial to the concept of "if you build it they will come." It's worked for Monero so far. People that aren't interested in decentralized and censorship resistant tools are that way because they want things other than reach. These names use YouTube ant Twitter because they want clout, they want marketing, they want control, they want things other than for their voices to just be heard and their rights respected. And that's fine, but trying to chase down these people is a fools errand, because we simply can't give them what they may really be after.

An example, Trump wants to be paid to be on social networks. OK, that's fine, he has a point when he says he's popular and his presence makes the network more valuable and he should get a piece of that, but if then he goes on to claim he's being silenced, well, there are a myriad of ways to get your voice heard for free or very cheap, no need to launch your own social media company. It's not about censorship in that case, because all he needed to do was to spin up a Mastodon server (which is what he ultimately did and then got caught violating the GPL), that's not what he did.

The tools are here. The big names who don't like being censored are free to use them. Monero never chased the DNMs, it was just the right tool for the job. If they really want censorship resistance and for their words to be heard they'll use the tools available to them to accomplish that.

[-] SummerBreeze@monero.town 0 points 5 months ago

Most people don’t even know what Monero is. Most people don’t even know what Nostr is. Most people don’t even know why Linux matters. Education is needed. Just talking in a vacuum is talking to yourself. Outreach must be done to existing groups/people. If you want to sit on your ass and do nothing, okay good luck bye. But I’m building. I’m grinding.

[-] prancing389@monero.town 1 points 5 months ago

My fellow Monero enthusiasts,

In the pursuit of our cause, let us be unequivocal: we will not support any reduction in privacy or anonymity. These are the pillars upon which Monero stands, the very essence of our mission. The moment we allow these principles to falter, we risk losing the sanctuary we have built. It is then that we must seek refuge elsewhere.

The likes of Russell Brand and Glenn Beck may not grasp the profound necessity of the privacy and anonymity that Monero offers, but we do. We understand that our goal is not to appease the existing system, but to transcend it. We have borne witness to enough theft, war, and hegemony to last a hundred lifetimes. The time has come to cast aside any semblance of compromise in our messaging. Privacy and anonymity are non-negotiable.

Are we not the central bank killers that Satoshi envisioned? Are we not the vanguard of a new era, where financial sovereignty is reclaimed by the individual? Now is not the time to waver. We must weather every storm that comes our way, for there will be many. But united in our unwavering commitment to privacy and anonymity, we shall prevail.

Let us march forward, resolute and unyielding, in our shared mission. Together, we will ensure that Monero remains a beacon of freedom in an increasingly surveilled world.

Privacy and anonymity, now and forever!

[-] SummerBreeze@monero.town 1 points 5 months ago

I'm confused by your message. RebelNet.me does NOT compromise Monero's privacy in any way. It separates social id from financial id. And someone can self-host it.