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Google executives acknowledged this month they need to do a better job surfacing user-generated content after the recent Reddit blackouts.

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[-] Orvanis@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

While we are fixing things Google, can we also not have the first 20 results be YouTube videos that are 30 minutes long, when the answer I want is typically a sentence or two....?

[-] Braggston08@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

im adding "-youtube" to searches for a long time. The amount of Clickbaitvideos, no matter what you are searching for, is just crazy.

[-] cmrn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I still think it’s absolutely insane that Google just willingly runs ads to so many illegitimate and deliberately harmful sites too.

If you search for any software and click one of the first few links (the ads), you’ll almost always end up on a scam site. What a useful search engine…

[-] kat@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I downloaded a virus in high school computer lab. I was looking to download Chrome, and Google pushed a scam Chrome link to the top. I still have no idea how or why it happened.

[-] pureness@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Super interesting the trick we all thought was a secret, stopped working, and now executives from one of the worlds biggest companies are having trouble as a result lol

[-] thegenesis@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I've started using DDG as defacto since the last 3 months. Use Google search only for sports updates because they've good widgets for those.

[-] hunte@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I gave an effort to DDG for months and I really wanted to like that but it hasn't been that good for me. Image search especially is really subpar, but also in general searches a lot of times I had to resort to using !g after messing around trying to actually find what I wanted.

I don't like Google but I have to admit that their principle product is above the competition right now. I hope it'll change but honestly, with adblock if Google search is the only service I'm using from them and it's working out I'm kinda okay with that.

If they start plastering their results with even more ads tho, I'll definetly jump ship in a heartbeat.

[-] cpt_kierk@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

It's amazing how crappy the internet has gotten over the last decade or so. Yes, before that was the blogspam and link hijackers, but those were real problems that search engines were actively cracking down on via their Spam teams.

In the meantime, the relevance teams took a break and started trusting their social signals too much - now we've built an internet which incentivizes popularity over accuracy and has done so for a long time. Used to be that I could find things on Google and, if I couldn't, I knew the advanced search tools to tailor the search and get where I needed. Now, I just add "site:reddit.com" to the query. But if the niche communities die, that's a lot of knowledge that just vanishes.

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[-] Penryn_@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Google search has been pretty weak for awhile now. I/O spoke a lot of big talk about bring generative AI into search, but from my part of the world it still seems the same.

[-] pete@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Ai isn't going to fix the first page being all ads, that's a business decision.

If they wanted to return actual content they could do that without AI.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

that's not even close to the issue, though – Google Search fell because of SEO pushing irrelevant auto-generated garbage towards the top.

[-] overzeetop@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I think it's both - the SEO fight as well as the explosion of ads on Page 1. Throw in a dash of average-user search optimization (vs a flatter term-based search) and you've got Googles downfall in a nutshell.

[-] indigomirage@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I wonder about the odds that Google would buy reddit. Not saying it's a good thing, but it could be a strategic play for them.

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[-] favrion@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That was one of the first things that I thought about. People can't affix "Reddit" to their Google searches in good faith anymore, so what is the next most reliable community?

[-] TrickyCamel@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Whats bothering me the most about it is that Reddit is still a valuable source of information for so many things, can't get around a boss fight in a certain older videogame? Yep, there are about 10 threads about it on reddit from years ago.

The amount information on there is big enough that often times many of the top useful search results are in reddit, I hope Lemmy can fill the gap, at least partially but I'm aware that it could years and that's only if the fediverse picks up well enough.

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