I have no desire to interact with Facebook via Lemmy. Fuck that idea. And I think it's shady that there's Mastodon admins having secret meetings with Fuckerberg and his cronies and keeping the details secret. I think it's even worse to see Mastodon servers defederating with other servers just because their admins are critical of Meta. I feel bad for all the users who fled to Mastodon just to get away from Big Corporate Social Media just to be shushed and haave their concerns handwaved by their Admin who seems a little starstruck. It all leaves a really bad taste in my mouth.

On the one hand, embrace-extend-extinguish is a classic playbook for big evil companies.

1. Facebook runs a version of mastodon or lemmy or whatever that is actually good
2. People get on board because it's usable and ostensibly open
3. Facebook invents features that, sadly, are not possible with ActivityPub (actual private messages come to mind)

On the other hand, it remains to be seen if anyone takes Meta up on a new offering. I'd have complete faith in the future of the open Internet if it was Google trying this.

Eh, I use Mastodon and had no idea. I think it only matters to fediverse supporters who care about how it works. Not dismissing their concerns, Facebook is verifiably harmful to society and democracy, but for the average user this is not even on their radar.

I just opened Icecubes and scrolled the Federated timeline for a while. Not a mention of Facebook or Meta so far as this is concerned.

personally, as one of the people who has come over from reddit very recently, i don't really see it as being my place to comment on it and at any rate there are many other people saying the exact same as me anyway. screw zuckerberg, he doesn't deserve to share in what other people have built here.

Ugh. Nothing is sacred. Why does everyone want to get rich? We don't do anything for the public good anymore. I hope Jimmy can get an link aggregator up that is hopefully not for profit. I think that is the only way, it was only a matter of time before someone "OpenAI"'d the fediverse.

I've heard some rumours but I'm not worried.They can create an instance if they want, by fediverse nature if they do something nasty others would be able to defederste from them.

I read the article on it. The concern is that the Facebook instances will be defacto entry-points by sheer size a la lemmy.ml et al to a much grander scale, and they have more resources to support dev work than most public instances to incentivze a cleaner UX/UI a la lemmy -> kbin.

And when they're the biggest show in town, they have a magnetic pull towards new/future activity in the same way that the top 25 subreddits tend to suck the air out of all of the lesser known alternative subreddits.

The growth that they bring could have positive or negative results based on your view of the coin.

There's nothing wrong with talking. What a silly controversy.