Toto on Max's 10 in a row: It's not something that would be important for me, any of those numbers. It's for Wikipedia. Nobody reads that anyway (imgur.com)

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Toto on Max's 10 in a row: Our situation was different because we had two guys fighting against each other within the team. I don't know whether he cares about the record. It's not something that would be important for me, any of those numbers. It's for Wikipedia. Nobody reads that anyway

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[-] The_one_and_only@lemmy.ml 61 points 1 year ago

First Hamilton who is discrediting Max by saying he never had a decent teammate, and now this from Toto.

They aren't handling the losing-part of the sport very well over at Merc...

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

The way he says it really shows how much it actually does bother him.

Echoing what I saw on the other site, it’s got to be hard to get beat at the end of your dominant regulation cycle, by a questionable call, then to come out the next year with what you believe to be a race car that would crush the competition and having it be absolute shit must feel terrible. Merc is having a bad few years and it’s got to be demoralizing for the team, some of which probably had only experienced the dominant period.

[-] PizzasDontWearCapes@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

Two things Toto's Mercedes team can't do:

Build a winning areo car
Act gracefully when recognizing the dominance of their rival

Toto and Lewis are Titans who are making themselves look small with these sour grapes comments

[-] tsz@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago

Eh, there's something to criticize about the absolute piles of smugness coming from) bredbull /max. These comments get hyped up, while any humble stuff is never mentioned. It's a competitive sport, people will inevitably say shit, none of it will ever completely define anyone.

[-] Tagger@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

"questionable" ...? That's putting it very mildly.

[-] alphacyberranger@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

The ocean wants it's salt back. Can't we just appreciate his achievements and move on.

[-] bilboswaggings@sopuli.xyz 15 points 1 year ago

Ah yes team boss who doesn't care about winning, yet slams his hand on the desk more often than merc gets a podium these days

[-] Microw@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Lol he genuinely made that Wikipedia stab in multiple TV interviews

[-] Crakila@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

RPM's review of this and Toto's comments are going to send #TeamLH into the 4th dimension lol.

[-] TheBlue22@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Wonder if he said the same if it was a merc driver doing it

Cope and seethe Toto. Cope and seethe

[-] D2Rave@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I get it Toto. 10 straight wins for Max and company, who cares... Its all about the team and the ability to respond to the conditions each week, to have your cars positioned the best they can be, without winning.

[-] Ecksell@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Then Toto won’t mind if this gets posted all over the place as a snide reference to him: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozymandias

[+] TWeaK@lemm.ee -10 points 1 year ago

If anything, winning 10 in a row shows problems with the sport. It's supposed to be a competition.

[-] hagelslager@feddit.nl 20 points 1 year ago

What can be done? Besides the RBR/Max combo, the rest of the field seems to be tighter than at any point in the past decade (maybe even two decades).

[-] riotrick@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I don't think I've ever seen the entire field so tight. It's just Max in the RBR that stands out.

[-] madejackson@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep... Max's dominance seems to be a side effect of the new regulations for closer racing, IMO. The new regulations favor Max because he is so consistent and fast while still having a bit of a margin, combined with a now very reliable car, and a good portion of luck as well. I still think it's more interesting to watch than the previous years. Max is, while more consistently in front, still closer to the pack than Hamilton in his dominant years.

I'd also lay a lot of the "problems" of the sport are also due to the attitude of the fans praising the winner in an "all or nothing"-fashion instead of focusing on the battles for 2nd-10th as well. F1 already did try a lot to change this, IMO (DotD, fastest Lap, new Regs, TV-directing)

[-] Sentau@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

I'd also lay a lot of the "problems" of the sport are also due to the attitude of the fans praising the winner in an "all or nothing"-fashion instead of focusing on the battles for 2nd-10th as well.

This. People act as if there is nothing other than the fight for the winner and then completely ignore the brilliant action for all other spots. Yes a season becomes brilliant when there is a compelling fight for the drivers championship but we can have great racing even without a fight for P1

[-] tsz@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago

If this were cycling, max would be doping. It wouldn't be a question. It is plainly odd; this I'd just ten in a row it's ten complete and utter incomparable dominations. They weren't races for max, just formalities. That is odd. Great car, sure, but it speaks to something else being a little off, whether that's regulations or the driver or economics I can't say. Max is an insanely talented driver, and probably one of the best there has ever been, not taking anything away from him in that regard.

[-] frankivo@feddit.nl 15 points 1 year ago

To me it looks like the competition has work to do

[-] Sentau@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago

Well it is still a competition. Red bull are winning because they made a great car and have a driver who will go down as legendary. Similarly merc had a great car and legendary driver combo. It would only cease to be a competition if Red Bull are given the victory irrespective of where they finish or it comes out that the entire F1 season is scripted in a similar way to WWE

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