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[-] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 44 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I was going to make this, but put Palestine before the fork. And then put the person away from the lever refusing to participate when pulling the lever would move it to a track with nobody on it. Or pulling a different lever that does nothing (labeled Jill Stein).

Palestine is and will continue to get run over regardless who wins the presidency, so they aren't exactly relevant to the choice. It's not a real trolley problem because it's not a trade for different people. It's just "let the trolley run over Ukrainians, lgbtq+ people, minorities, and immigrants" or... don't. And then refusing to touch the lever because it somehow makes you "love genocide" to have anything to do with the trolley, even if to mitigate the damage.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Please do make it! Just wait a day or so maybe?

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago

Please also put someone on the trolley with control over the brake and label them: Israeli leaders, military, and citizens. Since the trolley doesn’t actually need to go anywhere, regardless of whether the US track-switching money/arms are sent.

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[-] Cherries@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

Immigrants used to be on top rail, but after four years, they have been placed on both rails, just like the Palestinians. There is no guarantee that the groups placed on the top rail will not be shifted to the bottom rail as well in four years.

Voting for Democrats is always advertised as the lesser of two evils, but it sure seems like the lesser evil is just trying to kill the same groups the greater evil. If they want people to vote for them, the Democrats should start working to save and prevent people from being tied to trolley tracks.

Or at least lie about it.

[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

Plus we have Democrat-run cities implementing AI to spot homeless people, so add that to both rails as well

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[-] SquirtleHermit@lemmy.world 100 points 15 hours ago

I get that this is not the hill to die on in this meme, but the tracks should really be reversed.

This implies "doing nothing" will only sacrifice Palestine, while "pulling the lever" (i.e. voting) will sacrifice Palestine+all other at risk groups.

Otherwise, this really is a classic trolly dilemma. We can't stop the train and someone is going to get killed.

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[-] lazylion_ca@lemmynsfw.com 60 points 14 hours ago

I'm hoping once Harris takes office that she can improve the Isreal/Palestine situation. But I suspect for now she has to keep her cards close or she'll lose some key support.

Politics has been an old-boys club for a long time. She probably has to tread carefully until she knows if she has a majority or not.

[-] boywar3@lemmy.world 35 points 13 hours ago

I actually wonder if she has a different stance on Israel but simply will not/cannot talk about it because she is also the VP and it's a "bad look to go against the boss," so to speak.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 hours ago

She’s a Democrat. She will follow whatever AIPAC says. It’s foolish to wish otherwise. The president is not a monarch and must pick a few key issues to make changes to. The rest is up to the legislature.

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 24 points 13 hours ago

I appreciate the optimism but Harris being elected is far from a foregone conclusion. Far, far. Between tricks and the electoral college, it needs to be a blowout to win. And we're not seeing a blowout so far. I am hopeful as hell, but not affording optimism.

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[-] switchboard_pete@fedia.io 47 points 15 hours ago

anybody on the left withholding their vote at this point fundamentally disbelieves in a system with exactly two discrete options, so this type of post doesn't persuade anybody

[-] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 36 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

fundamentally disbelieves in a system with exactly two discrete options

except the polls are exactly about two discrete options. "not believing" in it is like not believing in gravity. it doesn't make you philosopher, it makes you dumb moron.

[-] switchboard_pete@fedia.io 3 points 7 hours ago

which is what people said before biden was replaced

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