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Iv seen posts with people substituting rape with r@pe. Other than bypassing filters I can’t see a reason to censor just 1 letter that doesn’t actually censor the word? I see if you fully censor the word, but even still context completely ruins the censorship.

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[-] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pretty sure it's done to avoid videos/posts being removed by TikTok/Twitter/FB and the likes. For example, you can't use or say the word "Suicide" on TikTok, that would get the video removed. So people say "Unalive" to get around that. This way, they can still talk about difficult topics without the dumb censorship.

If you're seeing it in places where that isn't an issue (like Lemmy, for example) they may just be doing it out of habit.

[-] Sami@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 year ago

There was this tiktok where a woman was talking about how her cousin was shot and killed for knocking on her neighbor's door to get her kid's thing and she used "unalive" to describe it. It was very jarring to hear in such a somber context. It feels very dystopian that people have to self censor for the algorithm. Same with youtube and any mentions of covid.

[-] LanyrdSkynrd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

A lot of this self censoring is algorithm voodoo. Nobody knows what makes these platforms mark your videos as age restricted, so people do silly stuff like say, "unalive". I've seen many videos where people use the word kill that aren't age restricted.

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

How Orwellian.

[-] EmperorGormet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Makes sense, figured it was filter dodging. The fact it’s has made its way outside of those places is slightly annoying

[-] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

It's really shitty for people that actually want to filter triggering stuff out of their feed.

Putting in stupid characters doesn't make it any less upsetting for the people it upsets, but it does force them to see it because fuck them, apparently.

It's a shitty, entitled thing to do, and people who do it should feel bad about themselves.

[-] EmperorGormet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Exactly what I’m thinking, it solves nothing but does create a problem.

[-] magnetosphere@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

I think it’s asinine. Rape is a serious subject. I find it insulting when someone “censors” the word in such a ridiculous way. Does the word “rape” make you uncomfortable? WELL, IT SHOULD. It’s sexual assault. You shouldn’t be comfortable thinking about it.

[-] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

it's just a silly thing people keep copying from each other.

[-] EmperorGormet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I wish they would stop lol

[-] berkeleyblue@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It’s just as dumb as spelling it f**k everyone still knows what it says and no one should fucking care.

[-] joshLaserbeam@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

It is to get around filters on more oppressive platforms. My recommendation is if you see people self censoring themselves in places where they are free to say the words, tell them to say it!

[-] zeppo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It seems pretty useless to me. The words are obviously still legible and comprehensible, so I don’t see how it has a different effect than just typing it out all the way.

[-] FaceDeer@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I suspect sometimes they don't really think about it, it's just something they think "everyone does." But sometimes I think it's an annoying sort of virtue signalling.

[-] key@lemmy.keychat.org 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I would assume it's mostly habit from platforms with content filters and uncertainty if usage of the word is prohibited despite a lack of filter. And then a dash of "online subculture"

[-] DrQuint@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

No, you're right, it is stupid. I have to agree it doesn't work, since it largely fails to censor the word for those people the censor was made for. I have seen platforms that do full word censorship (like Steam) and when people post screenshots of "I ♥♥♥♥ you", the only accomplishment isn't making me not think of a slur - it's actually rationalize even harder that they did say one of either Rape or Fuck, nothing else. Congrats censorship, you went from 1 slur, to 2 slurs.

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago

My understanding is that content creators have figured out which words trigger demonetisation of their videos (and to a lesser extent other content) so they've bowdlerised what they say to get around this. Other people presumably picked that up and used it.

[-] BobosGonnaeGetYe6@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's the same with most ways that we euphemise or censor words. It's so pathetically redundant because everyone knows what the word is supposed.to be. You may as well have said it.

[-] Eavolution@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Why can't it be normal for everyone just to use the correct words (to me it feels like it'd be kinda insulting to substitute a word like rape because it feels like then you're putting the platform above the very serious topic), then people be able to set up their own filters to filter out words like rape if they don't want to see them.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Isn't that because of tiktok* and stuff. Like unalive?

[-] EmperorGormet@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

That’s what I would think but how do you tiptoe in context of really intense issues like suicide, rape, abuse? If you reference it I feel like it would trigger any bad emotions just on the topic not the specific word

[-] dandan@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

If tiktok has banned those words, then maybe tiktok is not the right forum for the topic?

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I thought it was just about not triggering a word filter

[-] nuke@yah.lol 2 points 1 year ago

I think that's what is happening. It's to prevent the algorithms from hiding away their post due to controversial topics.

[-] axum@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

There's no way any modern word filter doesn't have a common symbol substitution list

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

By tiptoe, they might mean tiktok?

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Correct and I didn't even realize after reading their reply lol.

[-] MxM111@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Why would anyone sensor the "rape" word?

[-] Blamemeta@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Shitty word filters

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

Some people would rather not see that word. And importantly some algorithms don't want people to see that word.

[-] axum@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unless you are hiding the word entirely behind a spoiler tag every common substitution list would account for this and it doesn't look visually different enough to just not think "rape"

[-] FinalFallacy@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I've been raped and it's hard to have honest conversations now days because of this superficial escapism. It's definitely not an easy subject to discuss but hearing people say shit like "They've been graped" or "r@ped" seems to cheapen the gravity of the word and the experience. It's a word and topic that should make people uneasy and uncomfortable. On the same token people should be mature enough to see and hear these things or mature enough to leave, move on or skip it if they aren't able to handle it.

[-] metaStatic@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

people should be mature enough

there's your first mistake.

I've know a few disabled people and they always tell the best disabled jokes ... so, do you know any good rape jokes?

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I do agree that it's not really effective in either case.

[-] dmoonfire@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I'd rather see it because then folks can set up word filters to get rid of it. Adding random characters in the middle means it is harder to avoid seeing because it is so obvious what the word means.

[-] EmperorGormet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yea great point, people who don’t want to see it now have to because… bullshit?

[-] Deestan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

When asking people, they seem to think it is "rude" to write out the word in full and consider it a confused courtesy.

Whatever the reason, it fucks with people who have filters set to avoid certain topics or just want to skip discourse that uses rude language.

It's shitty and should stop.

[-] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

People also self-censor when they speak in similar ways, like saying "what the F". I don't see why they wouldn't try to express similar notions in text

[-] EmperorGormet@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I agree, and you kind of made my point in your comment. What the F at least will censor for children or anyone who doesn’t know what that would be. Kids can decipher r*ape if they know what rape is. I just don’t see a point in text

[-] gila@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe the situation just doesn't call for use of a triggering word for the same reasons why swear words are less effective when used casually or arbitrarily in many situations. The meaning attached to the swear word is literally derived from the absence of its use in normal daily situations. In turn the use of the word alone is triggering for most that participate in this established convention - that's the intended design for their use of the word. There's plenty of forums where exclusively adults talk to eachother without swearing or where a blunt reference to SA would be weird.

When conversation about these topics is warranted, the person tabling it might feel compelled not to trigger other participants and self-censor as a measure towards that outcome. This might not actually prevent victims of SA from being inherently triggered by any discussion on the topic, but it at least signals to them that the organisers of the discussion have considered / are sympathetic to their position, which may encourage their participation in a way that enhances the discussion.

Personally I participate in communities where this topic comes up often and due to the established convention for the mode of discussion in that community, it sounds quite grating to me when someone uses the word rape, because I understand that convention and that it was established for the benefit of others (SA victims), not me.

[-] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some proprietary social media (looking at you meta) have filter, removing any sensitive topic. So if you write rape you can't post while if you write r@pe you can.

The ridiculous result is that a health-educator talking about sexual health and condoms will get censored while a teenager twerking in underwear won't.

n was talking about how her cousin was shot and killed for knocking on her neighbor’s door to get her kid’s thing and she used “unalive” to describe it. It was very jarring to hear in such a somber context. It f

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