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submitted 5 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Summary

Key leaders of the “Abandon Harris” movement, which encouraged voters to oppose Kamala Harris due to U.S. support for Israel during the Gaza war, are now expressing unease about Trump’s incoming administration.

Many in the movement, including prominent Muslim leaders, voted for Trump hoping he would bring peace to the Middle East.

However, concerns are growing over his Cabinet picks, such as Mike Huckabee and Tulsi Gabbard, which some see as troubling for Muslim communities.

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[-] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

But don’t call these people stupid. That would be racist.

People I’ve interacted with on Lemmy 👆

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[-] recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

No no no,they saved Palestine, remember?

Now that the Dems aren't in control all those Palestinians are perfectly safe.

Right, tankies? That's all you were screeching about back in November. Now it's cricket chirps, like Palestine even mattered to you lot. Disgusting.

[-] markko@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm not from the US but I know that I would really struggle morally to cast a vote for either party.

Yes, voting for Trump because of Palestine is stupid, but I can easily see how voting for the party that keeps sending money and weapons, and supporting them in the UN, while pretending to ask them to "be more careful about killing civilians", would not be very desirable either.

The US electoral system is absolute dogshit, but in my opinion the Dems lost this election all by themselves.

Edit: are the downvotes because you disagree, or because you're upset that I'm right?

[-] Eddbopkins@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

hypocrites, these people are two faced hypocrites. they get what they wanted with the election and now their all upset? if these people are not the definition of a hypocrite idk what is.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

anti genocide voters are not hypocrites.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 months ago

People who ignore the realities of strategic voting in a FPTP system, then pat themselves on the back for their moral superiority are hypocrites. Anti-Genocide wasn't even on the table. Ignoring literally every other issue that was on the table just so they can feel good about throwing away their vote makes them hypocrites.

The Palestinian people have gained absolutely nothing from those anti-genocide votes. They're virtue-signalling at best, intentional spoiler votes at worst.

Meanwhile, there are labour protections, checks on corporate enshittification, mechanisms to slow down the accumulation of wealth and institutions of democracy that the incoming administration will tear down (or at least try to) that the alternative wouldn't. All of these are victims of that arrogance, to think that an anti-genocide vote is worth more than an anti-christofascism(+genocide) vote.

[-] kreskin@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

They’re virtue-signalling

Harris lost across nearly every single demographic. Thats disengagement, not virtue signallers. You wish it was virtue signallers so you would have someone to be mad at besides Harris.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 5 months ago

Oh I have plenty of people to be mad at - Putin, Netanyahu, Trump, Harris, Biden, the DNC, the conservative wing of the Democratic Party, authoritarian bootlickers masquerading as leftists...

Voter disengagement is an issue, yes, but people advocating for voting against Harris on grounds of voting against Genocide (which, you know, is the whole topic here) fail doubly: First, they pretend it's the core issue of the election and their vote puts them on the anti-genocide side, and second, they pretend it was a topic of the election at all, such that there would even be an anti-genocide side to put them on.

So yes, I am mad at people pretending that voting against Harris somehow makes them more virtuous. I'm even more mad at the people voting against her for actually relevant reason, but that's not the topic here.

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[-] cmrn@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

voted for Trump hoping he would bring peace to the Middle East

what

[-] fiddlesticks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago

I guess you could argue that total eradication of anyone that Israel hates will bring peace so they were sorta right

[-] Pulptastic@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

Like bringing balance to the force by murdering all the Jedi. Technically correct

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