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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago

Looked at the CES reveals and aside from some minor improvements, its nothing but overloaded AI crap.

Even on TVs from 10 years ago, the first thing you had to do was turn off the stupid auto frame generation, smoothing, lighting, and other effects so you can actually enjoy your content in original detail and correct FPS.

[-] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago

It took me way too long to figure out what was going on with those settings. One of my relatives tv's was like this back in the day and at first I thought it was just their "HD" setup which made me completely write off getting anything HD because of the fake look like a soap opera. It wasn't till I was gifted a blue-ray player that I realized their tv just had horrible "enchancement" shit.

[-] relic_@lemm.ee 4 points 20 hours ago

Feel like I'm the only one that likes the soap opera effect to some extent 🙈

[-] Belgdore@lemm.ee 3 points 19 hours ago

It’s fine for tv, but it causes input delay for video games.

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[-] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 17 hours ago

I’ve seen LG getting trashed alongside the other offenders in the industry in smart TV discussions. I have an LG CX65 OLED from 2020, and I’ve always seen the onboard WebOS as pretty serviceable. Have they gotten a lot worse in the last few years? And/or does it vary by product price?

There are definitely some advertising options to turn off in the menus, and with all that taken care of the only UI I use is a row of app icons that pops up. No ads anywhere, and I don’t seem to be logged into the TV with any kind of account. (Though typing this reminded me that the cheap LG LCD in my son’s room does want a login in order to update firmware)

Note I said it was serviceable, not great. The UI could be more responsive on better hardware, but it’s also convenient for my family to just be able to use the Wiimote-like motion pointer built into the remote.

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[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago

My current TV has started to die. It's developing a purple spot that starts to be very distracting. I am not excited about researching a new model that doesn't pull out this kind a shit on me. I don't intend to ever connect it to the Internet. My current TV is nothing more than a big display for my NVIDIA shield TV and the next one will be the same.

[-] theangryseal@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

Sceptre makes a decent dumb tv.

I have one. I like it. 4k. Good enough for me.

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[-] eluvatar@programming.dev 23 points 1 day ago

This is where I would go to research a new tv https://www.rtings.com/

[-] qx128@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Check out “commercial” TVs. These are TVs for businesses (e.g. displaying a menu at a restaurant). They typically don’t have the “smart” features. You have to look for them specifically.

[-] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 9 points 23 hours ago

No, they are NOT tvs! The difference is that the display panels are to slow for fast action scenes or any kind of scene switch, that's why they only show a set of static images on rotation.

[-] 1371113@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

There are plenty of panels that are 60hz+ with decent g2g in the display panel space. My company sells them sometimes so i just ordered from there for my current tv. 65 inch. LED. 5 year warranty. Just a panel. No smart anything. It’s fine for sports, at least cricket and basketball which is what I watch.

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[-] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago

Instead of buying a TV, look for a digital signage display. It's a TV, but with none of the "smart" crap on it.

Alternatively, just don't hook your device up to the internet.

[-] renzev@lemmy.world 105 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is good advice, but I really wish we lived in a world where consumers could bond together and get laws passed that make this type of crap illegal so that buying TV's (or any type of appliance for that matter) didn't involve having to do research on weird non-consumer hardware just to have a nice experience.

EDIT: some morons in my replies keep on saying shit about "voting republican" and We Do In OtHeR CoUnTRiEs. I'm not american, I don't live in america, and I cannot remember the last time I set foot in america. Shut the fuck up, nobody asked you.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago

In other words, you wish we lived in a democracy instead of a plutocracy. 'Cause that's exactly how it's supposed to work. This thread is squarely about the FTC failing to do its goddamn job, because this should not be legal.

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[-] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 7 points 1 day ago

Or just don't buy Samsung. Never had this kind of trouble with any other brand except Samsung. Because of this, I'll never ever buy another Samsung product.

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[-] FolknForage@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

Ads and bloat are the main reason I still use my 1080p Bravia from 15 yrs ago, which btw still looks great.

Well, that and that I have better uses for 1k usd

[-] dai@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

I bought a 47" or 49" tv for a few hundred AUD - it was a dumb TV - 1080p from memory. Thing lasted 10 + years, reasonable picture quality and only needed a Chromecast and eventually got a ShieldTV.

That TV since died after 4 moves, two of which were 350km+ but man it was money well spent.

We've now got a 60something" Hisense which is a bloated crapware box, it's not allowed on the network; same with the reverse cycle dryer, or any "smart" home appliance. The volume of traffic these devices send wherever is absurd.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

I don't know if it's something you want to tackle, but making a separate VLAN on your home LAN and shifting all the IoT/smart devices to that network can keep them from whatever snooping or spying these devices might do on your LAN that you work and live on. Plus you can more easily monitor the unreasonably chatty ones and block them or at least prune off their ad-seeking IP addresses. PiHole for a home LAN can help a lot too, but that's another discussion.

[-] dai@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

Oh I do have a VLAN for my reolink cameras and some other home built iOT devices with adguard running on my primary LAN (two adguard instances for redundancy).

But I'd still not want to waste any bandwidth on "smart" devices.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Nice. Totally understandable. We have unlimited DL/UL, but I don’t support leeches on our LAN.

[-] Rubanski@lemm.ee 36 points 1 day ago

Verification can when?

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

So smart TVs are now smartass TVs?

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[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 147 points 1 day ago

No way, tell me that isnt real. I remember hearing a patent about being able to deliver ads over hdmi but dont tell me it actually got implemented.

[-] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 152 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That ad is not over HDMI. Its a smart TV it inserts the ad on its own.

[-] arin@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

That's the same thing to normal people. Technically it doesn't matter which source you are on and you'll still get the ad.

Just dont give the thing internet access then...

[-] sploosh@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

That works unless your neighbor had unsecured WiFi. The TVs will phone home in any way they can.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

Setup your own WiFi with the same SSID and block all ports. Bonus points, it will drive your neighbors crazy and maybe get them to up their security stance.

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[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 93 points 1 day ago

Not as bad as this, but when I moved to a new town I got a free big TV with my new ISP. I was going with that ISP anyways so a free 4k HDR TV on top was a nice bonus.

I wish I had gotten some other bonus. Viewing angle is atrocious and it is impossible to get rid of the input lag (no there isn't a gaming mode or similar) so no games with precise timing can be played.

So now we have a big living room TV that is too good to replace with something better but bad enough to be a little bit annoying.

[-] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 61 points 1 day ago

It really doesn't sound too good to replace? It sounds like you got free junk, and haven't actually bought a TV yet?

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[-] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 day ago

computer monitor + sound bar?

[-] Rednax@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

Or a beamer if you want a big screen.

[-] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

This really seems to be the right answer. At least while computer monitors stay dumb.

Get one of those tiny PCs that you can just leave behind the TV, get a wireless mouse and keyboard too.

Nothing on TV isn't available online anyway. Paying the cable company for anything more than an Internet connection seems like setting money on fire to me. Maybe sports would be difficult, but that can literally be found if you know what you're doing. Even games you wouldn't be able to with TV.

Cable TV just seems to me like a boomer's version of the Internet. It has no place in a world with the Internet, change my mind. The ads on TV are worse than what you find on any popular website/app.

But as usual, capitalism is messing everything up with the marketing. In a world where hi speed Internet is widely available, "TV" just has no use. None. And worse, the commercials are now leaking through your literal screen.

I'm not saying that ads aren't a problem, but there's a hell of a lot more you can do about them.

In a perfect world, there would be a place you could go whenever you wanted something and find products and solutions for that thing, and there wouldn't be ads in anything else at all.

But until there's an actual argument to say TV technology isn't totally worthless, my stance is simply "no TVs are necessary or useful".

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 17 hours ago

You can get little combined keyboard/track pads for $20-30. They're the same size as a remote, usually rechargeable, and kind of a pain to type on... But perfect for typing in the name of what you're searching for

[-] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

Yeah I leave it at my brother's house for our weekly movie and TV day, and he had them already so I didn't spend more than like 15 minutes looking at those.

But it's on the back burner for a QoL update like that.

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